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America. and i do think a secure border is in the best interest. look, i travel down to central america. i saw the conditions on the ground there. i get that there are problems. but there are much better ways of dealing with this. >> sure. >> than what has grown up over the past five years. that was prior to president trump taking office. i also understand the intense hatred for this administration, but you know what? hes going to be your president for another four years after this. >> well, whe...

-- >> you have people who advocate for open borders and a vast safety social net. what do you think is going to happen, chris? >> you do think it is a deterrent? >> i think an open borders policy is not in the best interest of the united states of america. and i do think a secure border is in the best interest. look, i travel down to central america. i saw the conditions on the ground there. i get that there are problems. but there are much better ways of dealing with this. >> sure. >> than what...