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>> it is clear thats between the line oz of what muellers saying. with respect to cohen and manafort, that their lie thing to public. theyre lie thing to public so distracted the investigators from their core mission and that interfered with their investigation and that could give rise to obstruction. ken starr said the same thing during bill clinton. so its not clear to me that mueller will not take the same view, that all of these lies trying to divert the attention of the american people and ...