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Transcripts for CNN CNNI Simulcast 20140427 09:41:00

And with rain coats on because it had rained a bit during the night. i mean, a huge kind of devotion that you just don t get to see at other vatican events when they come for a funeral or a conclave. it s more a kind of curiosity. but this, something really moves the people who have come here. so, for all of our talk and sometimes cynicism about miracles and so on, you see from these people who have come so far and are willing to sleep outside an entire night and why they do it. they obviously are extremely devoted to one or both of these two new pope saints. yeah. i mean, the streets of rome in the run-up to today s event have just been fascinating to watch them fill up from people from all around the world, but of course, in particular from two parts of the world, poland. i mean, there are parts of rome that have become virtual polish colonies in the last several

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Transcripts for CNN CNNI Simulcast 20140427 09:22:00

well, i will say it again. by any human logic, it s basically impossible. it s unfathomable a job. think about what popularly we expect popes to be. we expect them to be fortune 500 ceos, we expect them to be media rock stars, we expect them to be political heavyweights, we expect them to be intellectual giants, and we expect them to be living saints. and any one of which is difficult as a life s work. you roll them all up together, it s basically impossible. and if you want to see the physical toll that the job takes, i mean, just compare pictures of john paul ii in october 1978 when this swashbuckling man s man, john wayne bursts upon the global stage and took the world by storm, versus that frail, elderly man in his twilight. it wasn t just the years and the parkinson s disease, it was the physical toll of the job. you can see the same thing on

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Transcripts for CNN Pope Francis Man of Many Firsts 20131013 23:58:00

Way he wants to be pope. not let other people dictate how he wants to be pope. the hard truth is the papacy is an impossible job. think about what we want popes to be. we want them to be media rock stars. we want them to be fortune 500 ceos. we want them to be political heavyweights. we want them to be world class intellectuals, and we want them to be living saints. i mean, any one of these things is hard to do over the course of a lifetime, and you a you roll that all up together it s a prescription for impossibility. and as pope francis settles in his job on the heels of benedict xvi resigning earlier this year, the first pope to do so in 600 years, pope francis must also figure out how to stem the tide of members leaves the church. if there s anything that will bring people back, it is the understanding that the church is there, not to yell at people. the church is there to be an instrument of god s love and of

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