and with rain coats on because it had rained a bit during the night. i mean, a huge kind of devotion that you just don't get to see at other vatican events when they come for a funeral or a conclave. it's more a kind of curiosity. but this, something really moves the people who have come here. so, for all of our talk and sometimes cynicism about miracles and so on, you see from these people who have come so far and are willing to sleep outside an entire night and why they do it. they obviously are extremely devoted to one or both of these two new pope saints. >> yeah. i mean, the streets of rome in the run-up to today's event have just been fascinating to watch them fill up from people from all around the world, but of course, in particular from two parts of the world, poland. i mean, there are parts of rome that have become virtual polish colonies in the last several