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It which was a high coupon was packaged together into securities and sold around the world. is that not correct? >> thats true. they had all different types of acronyms. load docs, subprime. they just should have been called bad loans. thats what they were. >> and your indymac as i remember and i recall tried everything it could to recalibrate those loans, restructure those loans and renegotiate those loans to keep as many as possible from not going into foreclosure. >> thats true. not only for ...