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MSNBC The ReidOut November 20, 2021 00:13:00

Miss the whole meal here and black people like the meal. >> i like your chant of yes, we care. thats a key part of this. i as much as this is a black political cliche, i watched the ruling in the barbershop this afternoon. no one was surprised. everyone said were surprised the judge didnt give him a gold star and medal when he was done. speaking of which. paul one of the most galling things about you, what did shock a lot of people is the behavior is just the judge. i want to play a clip and get...
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CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar November 1, 2021 11:38:00

In the case made a controversial ruling telling prosecutors they cannot refer to the three people rittenhouse shot as victims but rittenhouses attorneys may refer to the people as looters, rioters and arsonists if there is evidence to prove it. . >> the evidence shows that any or more than one of these people were engaged in arson, rioting, or looting, then im not going to tell the defense they cant call them that. . >> i think, your honor, if i were able to not call a victim. >> this is a long ...
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MSNBC Stephanie Ruhle Reports November 1, 2021 13:59:00

For deciding the attorneys must not refer to the men rittenhouse shot as victims. >> the word "victim" is a loaded, loaded word. and i think "alleged victim" is a cousin to it. >> reporter: the judge ruled the lawyers can, however, refer to the three men as rioters, looters, or arsonists, if they have evidence to support those claims. his lawyers are expected to argue rittenhouse, whos pleaded not guilty, shot the men in self-defense. >> when we have the self-defense on tape, we have the case on...
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CNN Anderson Cooper 360 October 28, 2021 00:56:00

Unhappy with that idea, its not a word we use in general conversation and a word a jury may not have any reaction to. but attorneys say, look, this is all for the defense who is the person that is on trial is kyle rittenhouse and that is who the judge is most concerned with in this particular case. but it has caused quite a bit of controversy, anderson. >> sara sidner, appreciate it, thank you. well be right back.
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CNN Anderson Cooper 360 October 28, 2021 04:37:00

More fair. we have multiple ways to do it. lets just agree on how this thing is going to be paid for. and then, we can get it done. >> it -- i dont know if it matters but is there a sufficient trust between the progressive caucus, i guess the more moderate wing of the married or the manchin/sinema, you know, two-person wing, to stick to whatever agreement finally takes shape? >> well, look, thats where i will tell you theres not a lot of trust. i have spoken to senator manchin quite a bit. i bel...
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CNN Anderson Cooper 360 October 28, 2021 04:53:00

Of mine which very few judges, i guess, share with me, that i think its a loaded -- the word "victim" as a loaded, loaded word. and i think "alleged victim" is a cousin to it. >> to put it mildly, its very odd. >> reporter: a former law enforcement officer and former prosecutor is floored by the ruling. >> it begs the question of, what else would you call someone whos been shot? theyre not bullet recipients. >> reporter: he says judge schroeders decision is highly unusual and will hurt the prose...
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CNN Anderson Cooper 360 October 28, 2021 04:56:00

>> sara sidner joins us now. what does the judge say people should call the three people shot if not victim? >> he said they should be called decedents. the prosecutor was clearly unhappy with that idea, its not a word we use in general conversation and a word a jury may not have any reaction to. but attorneys say, look, this is all for the defense who is the person that is on trial is kyle rittenhouse and that is who the judge is most concerned with in this particular case. but it has caused qu...
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CNN Anderson Cooper 360 October 28, 2021 00:37:00

You know, two-person wing, to stick to whatever agreement finally takes shape? >> well, look, thats where i will tell you theres not a lot of trust. i have spoken to senator manchin quite a bit. i believe if he gives his word, i have to take him at his word that he is going to keep his word but hes got to agree, first. and this isnt -- you know, look. thats the problem right now. but i think i have my caucus to agree. you know, anderson, remember, we wanted a senate vote for exactly this reason ...
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CNN Anderson Cooper 360 October 28, 2021 00:52:00

The three people rittenhouse shot cannot be called victims by prosecutors in front of the jury. but if there is evidence to prove it, rittenhouses attorneys may refer to the dead and injured men as looters, rioters and arsonists. the judge and prosecutor sparred over it. >> if the evidence shows that any or more than one of these people were engaged in arson, rioting, or looting, then im not going to tell the defense they cant call them that. >> i think, your honor, if i were to count the number...
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