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>> we will have much more with leader cantor. but right now, tea party groups are saying they are being targeted again. they say it is not just the irs, but the department of homeland security. jason hoyt is a tea party organizer from central florida. nice to see you. >> thank you so much. >> tell me what happens that makes you think that the department of homeland security is targeting the tea party, at least your organization? >> well, last week, last tuesday at noon, this went on all over the...

We had a peaceful protest. we didnt have any arranged speakers. there they were in full gear, trying to intimstate and. >> did you ask or anyone you know ask why they were there? why it wasnt a local police matter? but you are outside a federal building, the irs -- >> right. >> did you ask them or engage them in any discussion? >> no. they left their vehicle there and they stood 20 or 30 feet away in the parking lot, kind of eyeing everybody as they went by. i didnt interact with them. i just we...

Or should both be doing it? >> obviously, the situation with the irs is very, very troubling. i dont care what party you are affiliated with in america, you dont expect that an incumbent president and his administration would using a neutral instrument like the tax enforcement agency, the irs, to go about discrim naight against political opponents. its a serious matter. know in richmond, we have had a tea party group that was targeted. i have been in touch with them, since the minute they realiz...

Done if the american people are going to be able to trust the agency again. >> it seems to me, the irony, their growing unpopularity with obamacare and which ages is the agency thats going to administer -- historically the most unpopular and now one emploil broiled with targeting people. this couldnt be worse, i dont think. >> no, it couldnt. the irs role in carecrare is very real. employers have to report to the irs about what employees have insurance and what doesnt. the end of the year, insur...

To intimidate. come to find out there they were at a number of different events around the country at different locations. but i do believe this is a multi-agency attack. brandon darby wrote about it about katheryn i englebrecht in "true to vote." and they addressed steven miller about that. her family businesses and her organizationings were visited 17 times from multiple agencies. not just the irs, fbi and atf but osha, the epa. i believe this is a culture, if not a directive, from the federal...

This thing to a halt and we find out what actually win on and not put in place policies that will continue the abuses. especially in healthcare where the irs will potentially have information i dont want them to have. >> steve, thank you. always nice to he zoo you. >> good to see you, greta. thank you. >> now to tonights hot button issue on gretawire.com. should there be a hiring freeze at the irs? yes or no. go to gretawire.com and vote in our poll. maybe the irs is listening and will be curiou...

We were standing there in the rain in peoples lunch hours. there were people there who had never been to a tea party event before. they say this was the issue that got them off the couch and got them engage in the great awakening we are going through. >> jasorngs thank you very much. >> thank you, greta. >> listen to this. right now, the irs is hiring. yes, hiring new agents to enforce obamacare. what does steve forbes think about that? good evening, steve. >> good evening. good to be with you. ...

Thick to a halt when we find out what went on and not put in place policies that are going to continue the abuses, especially in health care, where the irs will potentially have information i dont want them to have. >> steve, thank you. always nice to see you. >> good to see you, thank you. >> ninety two now to the hot-button issue on gretawire.com, should there be a hiring freeze at the irs? yes or no? maybe the irs is listening. we will be curious what you think. vote in the poll. state ahead,...

Came from the irs to the white house? or vice versa with all of this? we dont even have the beginning of the answers to those questions. and thats what our committees, our task was doing, doing a very good job at being very fact based and methodical about getting the answers for the people of this country. >> lois lerner ethe irs employee took the fifth. technically, shes under subpoena. i dont think she has been discharged. they can always resubpoena her if she was. should she come back and be ...

Happen to obamacare if the irs cant hire the people a lot of the states arent setting up the exchanges, what is going to happen? >> what the irs has done as a power play under the law they dont have authority to give subsidies if a state does not set up an exchange. the federal government sets up an exchange. the irs does not have the authority to provide the subsidies to make these things supposedly work. but the irs made a ruling on its own, directly against the law, saying they do have the au...