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standoff between its allies. lloyd austin meeting with european defense ministers at ramstein air base in germany. we are also, though, just getting in some breaking news, cnn white house reporter natasha bertrand, oren liebermann joining us. what are you hearing potentially about what more were learning? even this secret meeting that the cia director held last week with president zelenskyy? >> yeah, so about the meeting between ukrainian president zelenskyy and cia director bill burns...

Of 90 stryker vehicles is an ominous force, an additional 59 bradley vehicle, a great tank killing weapon and fought off both of nose in combat and theyre good but you also need the tanks. thats what secretary austin is pushing but i would say a warning, though, too, erica, as i go down the list of the last couple of months that what had been given -- what has been given to ukraine by various partners, were talking about bradley, strykers, denmark has given the caesar system, himars, m-rapst, le...