what-maker garland would do so far as contempt is concerned, but i think since they have been through it before, they feel like they are not going to put up with it anymore, so they must have a plan. you know, it used to be you could throw people in jail in congress. there s no jail apparently anymore in congress, but it used to be you would take them down to the basement somewhere and put them in jail. they can no longer do that, but i feel from talking to one member of the committee yesterday that they are all united that they are not going to stand for it anymore, so we have to see what their next move is vis-a-vis contempt and how they can try to make something like this stick quickly. now i don t know how they would do that. elie, you mentioned they could move quickly within hours. we re told they may start this process of the criminal contempt charges, but attorney general-maker garland would play
we want these documents by october 7th. that s a week ago. two more testifying today and two more tomorrow. here it is the middle of october 14th they have got nothing so are they going to get slow played or dragged into the courts or just wait until this thing fizzles out? two things they can do. one, as whitney said before they can send this case over to doj. at that point it s not congress s decision. it s-maker garland s decision whether to bring charges. they can bring them both into court and require them to testify. the members of the committee said we ll use every tool at our disposal. now is the sometime for them to do that. gloria, this tactic to muck everything up in the courts, delay, delay, delay, that has worked for trump and his allies all along and this has been a good strategy for them in the past. how could it be different this time? the difference is that the democrats control the congress and the democrats control the white house and the attorney general is not
use code tv and get $50 off plus a free foot rest. ben: disagree with the dems at your own wisconsin risk. joe biden is call on his attorney general maker garland and the fbi to crack down on what he considers to be the real domestic tastes parent at school board meetings. have a problem with mask mandates or critical race theory in your children s school in the g man may come knocking on your door. why such a drastic move? why now? well, the national school boards association demanded biden do it in a letter to him last week. meanwhile, the mob that surrounded and threatened senator rand paul and his wife outside the white house last year, they are free to go. joining me now is kentucky senator rand paul. thank you, senator, for taking the time to join me. thank you. ben: this seems absolutely ridiculous. i wonder what your reaction is to this word from attorney general garland. you know, both my wife and i have been through a lot. not only being myself being shot
the wrong thing, that they are going to end up on some list that merrick garland goes after. what would you say to these people? i would say be afraid. be afraid of your government. and that s a sad thing from someone in the government to say. buff the thing is those lists already exist. for example, people in northern virginia that have gone to, have been then sought ought by the school council. by the members of the school board and retaliated in a sort of legalistic way to try to put them on some sort of list and chill their speech by letting them know there will be a penalty for showing up and protesting. look, there are all kinds of laws about decorum and there ought to be. you know, the idiot woman that goes in the bathroom filming senator sinema in a bathroom that is illegal according to every local ordinance that you should punish that person. if you go to a school board meeting and you are disruptive and you don t obey the rules of the school board meeting, then there will b
people have taken the fifth amendment before. there is very little congress can do to force them to testify. finally, john, keep an eye on the calendar here. the subpoenas have a very quick turn-around date. the committee wants documents on the 7th, two weeks from today. they want testimony from patel and bannon on the 14th. and scavino and meadows on the 15th. there is a twist now. . right. so what congress can do, if they want, is they can if they decide to hold these people in contempt, right, if they don t comply, and i think it s a safe bet they won t comply. we will hold you in contempt and maker garland will have a huge decision to make. they can issue criminal charges. big decision by maker garland. it will allow them to speed up the calendar quite a bit. a tool democrats did not have