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Good evening and welcome to Joe Scarborough presents. As we move closer to the primaries, donald trump remains the dominant frontrunner, according to the Morning Consult tracker. He is nearly 40 points ahead of his closest rival, Florida Governor ron desantis. And there is real apprehension about what a second trump term might look like. This morning, the New York Times published a frightening article that gives us the best look at how far donald trump may go with his obsession with authoritaria...

Good evening and welcome to Joe Scarborough presents. As we move closer to the primaries, donald trump remains the dominant frontrunner, according to the Morning Consult tracker. He is nearly 40 points ahead of his closest rival, Florida Governor ron desantis. And there is real apprehension about what a second trump term might look like. This morning, the New York Times published a frightening article that gives us the best look at how far donald trump may go with his obsession with authoritaria...

did you start to think that there was a list? >> no, sure. i dont think there was any doubt in my mind this was a serial killer we were dealing with. >> someone had declared war on law enforcement and their families. >> i have kids. my husband, i cant keep putting them at risk. >> my wife had two guns out. i said unless you know its me coming through the door, be ready to use them. >> is there some sort of antigovernment militia group? i had no idea what we were dealing with. >> before...

france for the d-day anniversary. his plan to tout american leadership on the world stage and highlight the stark contrast with donald trump. then my keynote conversation about skipping the small talk and getting real. plus, senate republicans lock a bill to protect access to birth control as "the 11th hour" gets underway on this wednesday night. good evening once again. i am stephanie ruhle. we are now 153 days away from the election and that means it is exactly 5 months from today....

Just saying it is fake. when someone says look, elect me and i will prosecute everybody that you hate and that is how it works. if you prosecute me it is fake. this stuff has real impact down the line. it is politics right now. people are making bets that they can say these things and get enough votes in swing states to win, but there is a serious long-term impact to think about. we take away the idea of the courts as being real. we dont really know what happens after that and that is something ...

Actually rooting for a fight. its like zuckerberg and musk. >> elon musk, right. they are making bets, maybe, who knows? they are getting their popcorn. this may end up in a fistfight it is what is quoted in. there that tells you a lot about what is going on in a wing of the republican party. i find it hard to believe that this house republican party doesnt help democrats at the end of the day. >> you are not alone, it lets us know that -- is under attack. look at this. these are the folks that ...

Actually rooting for a fight. its like zuckerberg and musk. >> elon musk, right. they are making bets, maybe, who knows? they are getting their popcorn. this may end up in a fistfight it is what is quoted in. there that tells you a lot about what is going on in a wing of the republican party. i find it hard to believe that this house republican party doesnt help democrats at the end of the day. >> you are not alone, it lets us know that -- is under attack. look at this. these are the folks that ...

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Will be called to testify about january 6th. be called>> if it comes to thal go wherever the facts lead. i would not want to see a former president testify in such a situation as this, but if thats what it takes, in order to get to the bottom of this. >> i dont think there are a lot of people who are making bets on donald trump going before the committee. realistically, are we ever going to get a satisfactory answer about what went wrong that day? >> i think we will get more information, chris. ...

Midterms next year. thats the bet that hes made. theres no internal fight left to have. im glad kinzinger is out there saying what hes saying. >> lets see what the commission can do and i want to play for you what congressman jim clyburn said when he was asked if former president trump would be called to testify about january 6th. >> if it comes to that, go wherever the facts lead, i would not want to see a former president testify in such a situation as this. if thats what it takes in order to ...