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Be a courier for mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11, and, again, as jonathan just said, she was captured in afghanistan and during interrogation tried to kill u.s. service members with their own weapon. she was extradited and sentenced to 86 years in prison. now someone has a personal or political stake in this and they are going to make a point, you know, with the hostages. i hope this doesnt end up in loss of life, but well just have to see. the on-scene commander and negotiators are going to ma...

Private vendettas due to romantic intentions. i dont know at all. nobody knows until this situation gets resolved. >> and we have a new press release from the colleyville police department at this time, no injuries have been reported. malcolm and joyce, you are staying with me. next, the new charges against nearly a dozen members of a far-right group and what it means for the january 6th investigation. plus, within minutes of being sworn in today, virginias new republican governor signed execu...

Contributor. malcolm, your thoughts as you watch this unfold? >> its an unfortunate situation and what you have is a planned hostage taking. based on the information were getting, which is rather sketchy, i actually heard the live stream. ive listened to the discussions that the gunman had with the s.w.a.t. hostage negotiator and hes laid down some pretty solid lines that are going to be tough for a good negotiator to work with, but we hope they can wear him down with no loss of life. he has sta...

This is what is happening, we are now being taken hostage, and this gunman is demanding the release of her. the rabbi here in new york called 911 and that got the police in texas and the fbi looking into this matter. and as of now, the nypd here in new york is deploying extra units to synagogues as a precaution, given the new york and texas connections to all of this t. but as of now theres no threat in new york. this incident, for now, appears isolated to that synagogue in texas. >> morgan ches...

There are millionaires out there that give these groups money. they are now a -- the oath keepers im speaking of specifically, all of them are now tainted with the brush of criminal conspiracy to overthrow the government of the united states. so all of these guys who are outlying and meeting up at dennys in idaho and even parts of upstate new york, they are now going to have to understand their leadership, you know, took part in this and organized it. >> even being a poser has consequences. joyc...

Sometime around 2008. she stands trial and is convicted in 2010. when shes sentenced, she receives the terrorism enhancement, which is how she ends up with this 86 year sentence. its a sentence of life in prison. what we know is shes somehow motivated or somehow by her situation, the individual who is currently inside of the temple just north of dallas, is animated by a desire to have her released. of course thats not going to happen. but something we know about the fbi and atf hostage negotiato...

Time. well have a lot of incentive to cooperate with prosecutors. >> malcolm, i have one more question for you. who is paying for all of this? when you look at all the gear that they had, when you think about who is actually at the center of power here, who is paying for all of that? >> well, a lot of these people pay for it themselves. you see them dressed up in body armor, what we call the tactical tuxedo, trying to outdo each other in a combat fashion show. this is what we call those posers. ...

Nothing to combat interference in 2016 and then he added this. >> we are doing a lot and were trying to do paper ballots as a backup system as much as possible. because going to good old fashioned paper in this modern age is the best way to do it. >> so there you have it, and here with us to talk about it tonight, michael mcfaul, former u.s. ambassador to russia. his most recent book is entitled "from cold war to hot peace: an american ambassador in putins russia." and malcolm unanimous, special...

This has been a very good thing, in terms of us fighting against each other. that means were not talking about the russian threat. thats exactly what they -- >> right. >> -- had anticipated and thats what they have received so far. weve got to start pushing back on that. >> gentlemen, we knew by inviting you on this would be the sobering segment of the evening. you lived up to expectations, michael mcfaul, malcolm unanimous, thank you, as always, for coming on our broadcast tonight. another brea...

Media to be -- to be a mega phone for more distraction. >> and mike mcfaul, if youre watching on a flat screen -- flat screen tv in the basement of the kremlin, are you interested when donald trump comes out on the south line prior to boarding marine one and goes after the chief prosecutor in this case, the special counsel robert mueller? >> youre loving it. you know, this is what they wanted. they wanted to sow division in america. they wanted this polarization. this weakness that we see now ab...