second panel just been introduced that you are watching live coverage on c-span2. and redesign and reconstruction of how we deliver primary secondary education in the united states. and that s exactly what this panel is going to be discussing. very interesting papers on exactly that point by john child and steve wilson. and to inspire discuss, michael podgursky and michelle mclaughlin. and without further ado let me just say the presenters have 12 minutes each. to discuss 10 minutes each and if everybody is brisket we will have time for some conversation and discussion. take it away, john chubb. good morning. this morning and in the first tell you heard about mostly operational savings. now were going to switch to the topic of educational opportunities. the country for the last two years has been going through the worst recession since the great depression. and every industry has been under enormous, enormous pressure to change. education is not uni