Martin Bashirj News Today

Of those meetings? i think so, yes. i think, look, there is no - doubt that this era, the 905, was the wild west, right? its completely different now. there is much more governance. the irony of this is _ that the governance changes, which the government say. they want the bbc to adopt, they have already adopted. this is already in place. and its the same in newspapers. . i mean, you know, partly. because all kinds of things and leveson and the decline i of the power of those papers, the kind of...