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to me. he didn't lay it out like a politician would. he was laying it out, there are is something we both have to do here. this matters more than our opinion. >> with all the debate before this, was this going to be gentle or something of a scolding? i would say there was a toughness here. it was subtle, diplomatic, but he didn't pull his punches, certainly as laying lines on gay marriage, talking about his worry of family being under threat. he made a strong rebuke of abortion. talking about protecting life at every stage. here is the pope here, about to see the statue -- >> joined with vice president biden there. that's who he's standing next to. >> one other point i would make, on immigration, for instance, this gets to the toughness, he called critics of immigration here in the u.s. and elsewhere, hypocrites. we are not fearful of foreigners, we were once foreigners ourselves. that was a direct rebuke saying, how can you criticize when you came from the same roots? that's a very tough message that only this man, perhaps, can deliver in such a diplomatic way. >> but he didn't do it in terms of right/left. he did it in terms of right and wrong. >> human. >> global warming was the big message yesterday. you were right to point out the death penalty. was some part of a surprise there because even his comments about immigration, he tied into an idea of social justice. and i think it was really clever. this man is known for quoting others. usually they're religious figures. as we know in cuba he used jose marte. but for him to address the u.s. congress using their own heroes, merton, dorothy day, martin luther king, he says, i'm not telling you who you should be. i'm telling you this is who you already are when you're at your best. >> chris, that's absolutely right. as we've said over the last few minutes, as we watched the pope move from the central message where he was delivering that through statutary hall, now moving out and coming up on the balcony. we're also joined -- jake is sitting here with me, jake tapper, and john allen, and father kasicki, who has been watching for the pastoral nuances here. he did it very deftly, didn't he? >> yes. he lives by the adage, facts don't shape people's lives, stories do. it's going to help people remember this address a year from now. people often let facts go in and out have his head. he had factual information but he kept it narrative, interesting and compelling. >> interesting. you're a jesuit. the one congressman who we understand boycotted this was educated by the jesuits. he is going to maybe feel a little sorry when he sees the immense way that this was we will komd by all sides of the political divide. >> we have an expression if there was a barricade, you would find jesuits on both sides of it, so that's not atypical of jesuits or educated by jesuits. it will be interesting to see that congressman's reaction to the address. >> i would like to talk, if we could, about the statue the pope just visited, who was just made into a saint yesterday at catholic university. there were a lot of references in the pope's speech which require us to go over it and talk a little more in detail. but i was struck by his acknowledgment in a way of why many in the native american community in california are upset by this move by him to maybe junipero serra a saint. he said those comments were turbulent and violent, it's difficult to judge the past by criteria of the present. nonetheless, when a stranger in front of us. he he was trying to explain himself about this new saint, i think. >> sure. we'll come to that in one second. first, let's pick up the business about the four americans, what i'm going to call in today's column the pope's fantastic four. francis operates on many levels. the pastoral and spiritual level, but also a very politically savvy figure. he knew very well in the run up to this trip there were a lot of people trying to pigeon hole him as somehow anti-american, because of his anti-capitalistic rhetoric, he doesn't speak english, so on. i think the genius of lifting up these four americans, if i'm anti-american, so do four of your here rose. that was very craft. >> to that end as well, he used american technological and scientific exceptionalism in terms of how they could work out a solution for climate change. in every way he tipped the hat to which makes this country great. >> calling himself an american. to junipero serra, which his homily, he acknowledged explicitly there were horrible abuses during the colonial period. he did again today in his address to congress. we need to understand the pain people feel, the historical pain that people still feel as a result of that era. he simply believes on the basis of that investigatory process that, one on, you can't blame junipero serra. he believes serra did what he could to mitigate those abuses. >> we are seeing right now -- there's a democratic leader, nancy pelosi, democratic senate leader harry reid, republican leader mitch mcconnell, others coming out of the chamber of congress right now. we believe the pope is going to at least wave to the crowd from the balcony, if not more. the park service does a good crowd -- hundreds of thousands of people. [ applause ] [ cheers and applause ] >> hello everyone. >> translator: i'm so grateful for your presence here. the most important once here, children. i'll ask god to bless them. father of all, bless these. bless each of them. bless the families. bless them all. and i ask you all, please, to pray for me. and if there are among you any who do not believe or cannot pr pray, i ask you, please, to send good wishes my way. [ applause ] >> thank you. thank you very much. and god bless america. [ applause ] >> there goes the pope again n english, god bless america n spanish creation those huge numbers, tens of thousands of people out there, praying for the little children, referring directly to christ, suffer the little children and also asking them to pray for himself. the speaker, boehner, was visibly moved, weeping, also roman catholic minority leader, nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and the vice president. rosa flores was out in the crowd. >> reporter: hi. i noticed all the things you guys mentioned, but i also notice a couple other nuanced notes. he mentioned mlk and quoted the dream, but if you read it closely, he said that the dream inspires us all in america. so, it inspires all of us. then he says, it continues for many in america. so, just a couple of words there, but it's definitely an interesting point that the pope made. also when he was talking about the refugee crisis, he pretty much was talking about immigration and the immigration crisis that we saw last year here in the united states. he said, a lot of people going north. we saw a huge influx of children coming north. he almost made a reference saying, you're seeing a refugee crisis elsewhere in the world. we're experiencing one right here in the united states. then another one that was very, very subtle, he mentioned that he was from this continent. we know that he was born in south america. but if you ask anyone, most people in any of the latin american countries, whenever we're in the united states, we say america. they say, we are all from america. very subtle. but i think that that was one of the points that pope francis was trying to say. and when he was speaking spanish out here, i got to tell you, this was very typical pope francis. whenever he's able to speak off the cuff. i've heard him say that before. everyone, please pray for me. then whenever he refers to other people who, perhaps, don't believe, he always asks for good wishes and good vibes. even if you don't pray, send me good vibes. that's very shlgs very much in the character of pope francis because he's very inclusive. the message doesn't just go out to catholics. he wants to be inclusive and he wants to include everyone. >> rosa flores out there covering the speech for us. we're going to take a very, very quick break. we'll be right back with more coverage of the pope's visit to washington, d.c. and the united states after this very, very short message. the possibility of a flare swas almost always on my mind. thinking about what to avoid, where to go... and how to deal with my uc. to me, that was normal. until i talked to my doctor. she told me that humira helps people like me get uc under control and keep it under control when certain medications haven't worked well enough. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. we're back and we're watching pope francis leaving the capitol after creation congress. the first time an american pope has addressed a joint session of congress. we see the congressional leader there. there is democratic senator harry reid and mitch mcconnell, majority leader behind him. we expect the pope to go to st. patricks in the city. where he'll meet some individuals in washington, d.c. who are homeless. after that he will have lunch at catholic charities. the former head of catholic charities is the current u.s. ambassador to the holy see. >> jake, he is playing true to form, of course. he's not going to some fancy dinner. there's the pope coming out now after that magnificent balcony reception he had from the people of the united states who were standing out there just before he addressed the representatives inside with a joint meeting of congress. he touched on all the issues he's so well known for. all of them couched, not just in politically, but in this envelope he's been so well known for. we were just discussing the reaction, the reception he's received in washington, the most highly anticipated speech, because it was in the heart of american politics. the reaction he's got across the board must surely lay to rest any doubt about how this pope, francis, the pope of the global poor, would be received here in the heart of the united states capital. jeff zeleny, you're out there. how do you feel what's going on right now? >> reporter: i can tell you, we have dozens of members of congress lining the house steps here, as you can see, watching pope francis say good-bye, really, to the leaders of congress. we have senator john cornyn, republican from texas he's talking to right now. he's already said good-bye to mitch mcconnell and others. he's walking to his car. there are hundreds of young house staffers primarily, some waving flags, most all wielding cameras. the small fiat is dwarfed by the size of the u.s. capitol behind him. every member of congress, to a person taking pictures, wishing him well. we're getting a bit of early reaction to the speech. i can tell you one republican member of congress told me he thought it was a soft scolding, but it was fine. it was not nearly as strong or strenuous as they thought it might be. we're going to talk to a few other members of congress here after he leaves. we can see the fiat moving slowly now. it's going to be driving in front of us, in front of the capitol here. the drive to st. patrick's is a short drive. that is a parish in the heart of downtown. i can tell you, if you go to mass there, as i have many times, even on holy days, you see homeless people in the sanctuary. this is a very important symbolic but an important church here, st. patrick's in downtown washington. a very old parish here. you can see him as he is slowly making his way. the windows are down, so i can tell you most hill staffers here are hoping for a glimpse of him. members of congress as well. we see u.s. senators holding up cameras here, trying to get one glimpse of the pope as he walks by. he'll be just coming by us in a minute as he drives by in his fiat here. let's just watch this scene. >> jeff zeleny, jake tapper here. you and i know covering this town, it's not difficult to become rather cynical but it seems as though the pope has cracked through, when you look at the reaction from members of congress. emotional. vice president biden very solemn. speaker john boehner weeping. what are you seeing up there? >> reporter: jake, i cannot remember a scene like this. we have hundreds of members of congress here. you can hear them. they're waving to him as he's going by. we're going to give a wave to him ourselves here. he has a smile on his face. he's grinning. it is a sun-splashed day here in washington and members of congress are lining the way as he is driving now across the length of the capital to the senate side of the capital. the cheers you hear are from hill staffers who are gathering outside here. we are right now -- he is driving in between the capitol and the supreme court building. he'll be making his way to constitution avenue. he's waving his hands there, as you can see. he is so close to so many of these people. he has a smile on his face, really enjoying this moment as so many people up here on capitol hill certainly are, jake. >> as dana bash reported earlier, four members of the supreme court were in attenda e attendance. they did something they never do, they never do, which is applaud. when the pope -- it was something -- it was a fairly benign and innocuous statement that america is the land of the home of the free and the brave, but still, they were swept up in a moment and supreme court justices are, as a rule, never swept up in a moment when they're in that room. >> i know. it's hard not to appreciate that this is a glorious day and a glorious moment. i think no matter how, as you said, cynical or hard-headed or whatever, you can't help but get swept up when there's a global moral leader addressing you. he has shown that -- he walks the walk and talks the talk. he's not somebody who sits and pontificates from on high but he does it down low with the people. you know what, jake, i was wondering whether anybody here sort of twigged that he chose thomas merton who had tolerance and into the religious dialogue. and in that congress was one of the republican candidates for presidency. there are two. the top republican candidates, have decided to make a war on muslims. 1.5 billion members of another faith. it must be a little bit weird to have that sort of discordance when this pope is here talking about what makes america great, tolerance and all the other issues that have made this country great. the power of immigrants to build this country. >> rosa, when the pope spoke to the assembled throngs, hundreds of thousands out on the mall, he said, pray for me. it was the first thing he said after elected pope. pray for me. a sign have his humility. >> reporter: definitely a sign of his humility. he has said that in most every country he's visited. cuba, he mentioned that. he was soft other politicians here than he was in his church speaking to bishops and nouns. he said, please free us from the crying nuns. to the priests he said, if you are free of sin, throw the first stone directly at paeses. here he is a lot more subtle. he did make some strong points. he talks about a lot of issues that are, perhaps, divisive here in the united states. but he did it in a gentle way. i was talking to mary monroe from alexandria. tell us your reaction. >> i agree, he was very gentle. he came to dialogue. that was a word you heard him say over and over. i'm here to start this dialogue, talk about climate change, to talk about immigration, to talk about the family, to talk about the abolishment of the death penalty. there were so many issues he touched upon that, you know, spoke to my heart. >> tell me about what spoke to your heart of of all those issues, what was the most important in your book? >> i wanted him to hear about climate change. i know he just wrote the encyclical. i really wanted to hear him talk about the death penalty. i worked to abolish the death penalty. i wanted to hear him say that to our lawmakers. it's so important. it almost made it to the supreme court this summer. >> when he spoke about families and how important it was to have the traditional family, that touched the lives of many as well. i believe we are going to something else, jake, so i'm going to toss back to you. >> rosa flores, thank you so much. let's go to chris cuomo who is also out there covering this mow men to us day in washington, d.c. >> boy, you are -- that's the perfect way to put it, my friend. we're having a great conversation, representative steve king and i. you know him from iowa. before we get to the speech, let's deal with the moment. you feel that you were part of something special today. >> oh, you can just feel this. inside the chamber, you could feel it. you could feel his presence when he walked in the room. the way people reacted inside the chamber, both in the gallery and members, house members and senators, you just had the feeling you're in the presence of the pontiff and the presence of his holiness. all eyes and ears were on his words. and the focus and intensity on trying to pick up every sill bell as he spoke, which is difficult, by the way. i don't think i can just say this conclusively. i've never seen such attentiveness on the part of the members in the chamber. not for a state of the union address, not by a speech by anyone i can recall. >> jake commented on the same. he and dana both said, we've never heard them listen like this. not as a criticism, but an observation. do you feel relief orride at how the men and women dealt with what was being said? there were two dozen applause lines, standing ovation on the way in and on the way out. >> i would just say both of those. but i wasn't very concerned there would be a partisan division. that message went out to try to avoid that. it was a natural thing that flowed. you know, you listen sometimes, you would hear the applause start on the democrat side and then roll over to the republican side. in each case, it was balanced, respectful, appreciative. i think that's reflective of the language he used in his speech as well. >> we'll have plenty of time to process the content of this speech, think about it, what mattered to you. he really did emphasize immigration. we were looking at this speech together, preparing for this. him likening it to the golden rule. the pope in the papal fiat has arrived here, to feed the homeless. a pope francis inclination. that's what's going on now. the likening of the golden rule, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. that is his rationale for why to respect the people who want to come to this country. did it make you think of that niche any differently? >> one thing i would say the catholic church is the sovereignty. if you protect laws, have you to have laws. i absolutely agree with the church's position to respect the dignity of every human person. the language he uses really focuses on that and we shouldn't encourage opportunities, on the same token, if we open up our borders, we eventually sink the life boat, which is america. what i said as we spoke earlier, too, all of the language in his speech that i've had an opportunity to evaluate, and there were a few words i missed in there. early part especially. there wasn't a lot there to disagree, whether you were from the right, left or center. and i think it was designed that way. if i had written this speech, as i was kind of joking in a way, it would have been sharper, more definitive. and it's a good thing i didn't. i'm glad he did. and i am relieved he gave the kind of speech to make us feel good. >> and the humanity we should pride one another. congressman, thanks for sharing for us. back to you. >> talking now with father kusiek and john allen about the interesting proposals the pope put forward. talking about respect of life at all levels of development. obviously, from conception to death. were you surprised he broet up the death penalty. >> i wasn't surprised although all. i think everyone we heard in his speech is consistent with what he has written and what he said once he became pope. even his cyclical, he is pro-life cyclical, to bring healthy life onto this plan. >> he talked about the family. he addressed fund mental relationships. what do you think that was about? was that talking about gay marriage? was that talking about the rate of divorce monk heterosexual couples? >> francis is in all the way, to say is fairly. you know, he's called two summits around the world, he's going to world meeting of families in philadelphia in a couple days. when he talks about the family, does that or does that not mane gay merge? the answer is, yes, but -- when he talks about the rest of the family, he has a much wider vision. he would talk about youth unemployment, for example. he would talk about the impact of immigration policies, the divide families. he would talk about armed conflict and leaving a whole generation of orphans as a threat. yes, it means gay marriage but it means much more. >> jake, you were mentioning the supreme court justices, this united states supreme court ruled on gay marriage. a referendum which overwhelmingly went for and this church has an idea of keeping demographics inside and on the benches and latinos are growing at an exponential rate. >> that's right. let's take a moment and listen to the pope as he walks into pope patrick in the city. this is where he'll be meeting with -- and he'll be having lunch with leaders of catholic charities. really a remarkable moment for any church, where people just go on sundays or go to make confession. so the pope as ooish [ cheers and applause ] >> pope francis in st. patrick's in the city church. a real vision of modern america. not just america, the world, with so many parishioners there. smartphones in hand, taking video, taking selfies, capturing this moment. almost everybody when the pope first walked in the door, there was a sea of cameras being held in the air. >> talk us through some of the challenges, the real challenges, despite this outpouring of joy and welcome and deafening sound, talk us through some of the challenges of increasing the church. >> . >> translator: this is for your nourishment and strength, to keep you going. >> that was pope francis praying at the statue of virgin mary and child. now walking away with some church leaders. he's at st. patrick's in the city. >> i believe that's donald wuerl, archbishop of washington. >> and very close collaborator of the pope. for instance, when the pope called senate of bishops, he asked him to be -- >> was that because he demoted cardinal burke. >> he was not on that drafting committee. cardinal burke who was a champion of the traditional opposition on some proposals of senate was removed as head of the vatican -- >> he's an american. he actually, i think, got under the pope's skin and he said the church seems to be a boat without a rutter. >> cardinal burke suggested publicly the pope offered an apology for its confusion on the teaching of marriage. >> he may start to speak in a moment. the church is diminishing on the east coast, midwest and growing out west. we'll talk about that in a minute. >> translator: it is a pleasure to see you here. good morning. you're going to hear two statements. one in spanish and one in english. [ applause ] >> translator: the first word i wish to say to you is thank you. thank you for welcoming me and for your efforts to make this meeting possible. here i think of a person whom i love. someone who is and has been very important throughout my life. he has been a support and an inspiration. he is the one i go to whenever i'm in a bind. you make me think of st. joseph. your faces remind me of his. joseph had to face some difficult situations in his life. one of them was the time when mary was about to give birth to have jesus. the bible tells us that while they -- the time came for her to deliver her child. and she gave birth to her firstborn son and wrapped him in bands of cloth, in a manger because there was no place for them at the inn. the bible is very clear about this. there was no room for them. i can imagine joseph with his wife, about to have a child, with no shelter, no home, no place to stay. the son of god came into this world as a homeless person. the son of god knew what it was to be a homeless person. what it was to start life without a roof over his head. we can't imagine what joseph must have been thinking. how is it that the son of god has no home? why are we homeless? why don't we have housing? these are questions which many of you may ask daily. like st. joseph, you may ask, why are we homeless without a place to live? these are questions which all of us might well ask. why do these, our brothers and sisters, have no place to live? why are these brothers and sisters of ours homeless? joseph's questions are timely even today. they accompany all those throughout history have been and are homeless. joseph was someone who asked questions. but first and foremost, he was a man of faith. faith gave joseph the power to find light, just at the moment when everything seemed dark. faith sustained him amidthe troubles of life. thanks to faith, joseph was able to press forward when everything seemed to be holding him back. in the face of unjust and painful situations, faith brings us the right that scatters the darkness. joseph, faith makes us open to the quiet presence of god at every moment of our lives and every person and in every situation. god is present in every one of you, in each one of us. i want to be very clear, we can find no social or moral justification, no justification whatsoever, for lack of housing. there are many unjust situations, but we know that god is suffering with us. experiencing them at our side, he does not abandon us. we know that jesus wanted to show solidarity with every person. he wanted everyone to experience his companionship, his help and his love. he identified with all those who suffer and weep, who suffer any kind of injustice. he tells us this clearly, i was hungry and you gave me food. i was thirsty and you gave me something to drink. i was a stranger and you welcomed me. faith makes us know that god is at our side. that god is in our midst and his presence spurs us to charity. charity is born of the call of a god who continues to knock on our door. the door of all people, to invite us to love, to compassion, to service of one another. jesus keeps knocking on our doors, the doors of our lives. he doesn't do this by magic, with special effects, with flashing lights and fireworks. jesus keeps knocking on our door, in the faces of our brothers and sisters, and in the faces of our neighbors and in the faces of those at our side. dear friends, one of the most effective ways we have to help us is that of prayer. prayer unites us. it makes us brothers and sisters. it opens our hearts and reminds us of a beautiful truth, which we sometimes forget. in prayer we all learn to say, father, dad. and when we say father or dad, we learn to see one another as brothers and sisters. in prayer there are no rich and poor people. there are sons and daughters. in prayer there is no first or second class. there is brotherhood. it is in prayer that our hearts find the strength not to be called an insensitive in the face of injustice. from prayer god keeps calling us, opening our hearts to charity. how good it is for us to pray together. how good it is to encounter one another in this place where we see one another as brothers and sisters, where we realize that we need one another. today i want to be one with you. i need your support, your closeness. i would like to invite you to pray together for one another. with one another. that way, we can keep helping one another to experience the joy of knowing that jesus is in our midst. and may jesus help us to solve the many injustices that he knew first. that of not having a home. are you ready to play with me? i've started in spanish and you continue in english. our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. before leaving you, i would like to give you god's blessing. the lord bless you and keep you. the lord make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you. the lord lift up his continence upon you and give you his peace. and please don't forget to pray for me. thank you. [ applause ] >> pope francis. reciting the lord's pray. after this, he is going to meet with some members of the washington, d.c. homeless community. he'll also lunch with people, leaders of catholic charities. he's also going to visit a statue called homeless jesus. i don't know if we have the images of that statue. homeless jesus was a statue that just came to washington, d.c. earlier this year. there it is. on ash wednesday, it was blessed by cardinal wurl here in d.c. the only way to tell it is an image of jesus is by the wounds on its feet. and it is in homage, the canadian sculptor who made it, to matthew 25, the idea that that -- the way that society treats the least of us is the way that society treats jesus. and how are we treating the least of us? that is why pope francis is bringing attention to the homeless right at this moment. let's go to carol cospeatello w believe is at catholic charities where the pope will be lunching soon. >> the pope spoke very beautiful words and words do matter, but deeds do matter. as a wise southern baptist told me, the pope is a master at symbolism. there's a passageway that connects st. patrick's to catholic choiarities here. the pope will be walking out and greeting 200 homeless people from across the washington, d.c. maryland area. they are so excited. i hear the announcement going up now. all of the people assembled here have been asked to stand. and the pope, it's hoped, when the pope goes through that door, he will bless that statue you were talking about. as the pope goes out that door, it's directly to his left. homeless jesus, with the wounds on the feet and jesus as a homeless person, and then the pope will bless the lunch. in fact, lunch was served just about an hour ago. these people have had to wait and these are hungry people, i may remind you, so it's been difficult for them to wait this long. but they've done so, so patiently. the pope will then bless the meal and then it's hoped that the pope will go from table to table and greet the most vulnerable among us. because, let's face it, that's his message today, jake. he wants us all to think about what we can do. those of us who are fortunate enough to have a hot meal every night. we never think about it. the pope will ask us to think about what our responsibility is to help these kinds of people. >> all right, carol, thanks so much. christiane. >> it is imagining those people in there, hungry, homeless, waiting, waiting for their spiritual leader. he does this relentlessly, doesn't he, and just does not miss an opportunity to put that spotlight on the poor, on the dispossessed and to do whatever he can for them. >> i've covered every ten of his foreign trips so far, and these are always the centerpiece moments for him. the truth about francis is, as much as we want to make his speech to congress this morning the centerpiece of our attention because we've got lots political fat to chew on, if you ask him, what's the highlight of his day, it's what he's going to do right now. these are the settings where he always comes alive. you see that. the body language changes. the posture changes. the face lights up. the expressions become more animated. the language becomes more of the heart. these are his people. they were before when he was in buenos aires, and they are now as pope. >> he's making a quick stop at the chapel. we can't see that. we're still wait to come to the catholic charities area. father, he is a jesuit, they have that tradition of getting right down in there. tell us a little bit about that. >> he was part of a congregation of jess uettes that came up with a decree that said the judgment should have an optional order for the poor. the poor should always take precedence. we've seen that take place in his ministry. very much what he's doing today is part of his ministry. >> and it started all the way back in buenos aires. he went to the soup kitchens. he's been doing that forever. this is not just something he brought out as a papal motif. >> when he was archbishop, if a newly ordained priest was liked by cardinal bore gogolio, he wa sent to a slum parish. if they didn't have dirty shoes, it meant they weren't working, they weren't with the poor. >> the pope signified -- or symbolized he was going to keep this us, up on the first holy thursday, where he was seen wash being the feet of young people who had been in trouble. >> i remember when he went to south korea which was the first time he used english in public, he made exactly one change to his schedule because he wanted to go to a center for sick and disabled children on the outskirt s seoul. which was by far the most mesmerizing imagery of that trip. he was scheduled to be there for 15 minutes. he was there for more than an hour. the pope got about halfway through his speech and basically said this has no point, and he came down off the dais and just started moving around the room one by one, embracing these children, many of them wheelchaired, some on gurneys to be brought in the room, wiping away their tears. that's the francis magic. >> does take us back, again, to his very first trip outside the vatican after becoming pope. he went to lampadusa. it's only gotten so much worse since. the plight of refugees. the fact they're coming in so great numbers to europe and the u.s. now says it will accept some. so he was really early on that as well. >> in fact, he's been calling for parishes in -- or diocese, rather, in europe, to take syrian refugee families. he said, starting with my own in rome. >> actually, two of them. two working churches inside the vatican. st. peter's basilica and st. ann's parish. and both of them have agreed to take in a refugee family. in fact, francis told us on the plane that he -- coming over to cuba at the very outset of this trip, that he had recently gone to visit the syrian refugee family now living in st. anne's parish and was very moved about his experience. when i went down there immediately after his election as pope, i met a parish priest in one of these and i said the thing about the pope being the bishop of the slums, he said, is that pr or is that real? he said, go out and ask the people. we stopped people at random. before they even verbalized an answer, they ran into the tin and wood shacks they called homes, produced a picture of borgolio baptizing their kids or sitting in their living rooms when their husbands died because that's where he spent his time. >> we're expecting the pope to come out at any moment now. and then he'll go to catholic charities. catholic charities, obviously, an important organization in washington, d.c. and throughout the country. father, the former head of catholic charities, came out of retirement and is now the u.s. ambassador to the holy see. >> yes, i think john may know him better than i. >> yes, ken hackett was the head of catholic charities. he was actually the head of catholic relief services. there are two charitable organizations run by the church in america. catholic charities usa is kind of the domestic charity. catholic relief services is the overseas arm and ken is president of the overseas part. he comes out of that world, so to speak. he's very much
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