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General to come back to me with some suggestions and probabilities of how the data might be stored by others in the government. and i think thats a very difficult thing because the whole purpose of this program is to provide instantaneous information to be able to disrupt any plot that may be taking place. and you know, i think a lot of the privacy people perhaps dont understand that we still occupy the role of the great satan. new bombs are being devised. new terrorists are emerging. new groups...

Soldiers being on the ground. two, learning more and more about terrorist plots. i live in new york city. im thank fal we have programs that do this. im not a snowden fan. he should come back home and face the music here like -- because i believe what he did was break the law. but at the same time, are if we can answer the one question that andrea laid out, where do you store the data or who should store it. >> talking to privacy advocates, critics of these programs say the reason this is so sig...

Because the nsa are professionals. they are limited in number to 22 who have access to the data. two of them are supervisors. they are vetted. they are carefully supervised. the data goes anywhere else. how do you provide that level of supervision. >> so is it critical then to get to the bottom and will you investigate who might have been involved and whether there was any link to the russians? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> that investigation is ongoing. >> absolutely. >> sure. but you have to r...

Of americas phone records. and i think if these leaders believe that to be true, then they would encourage or at least be looking forward to a proper congressional investigation. the sort of thing that will actually get us some answers that has subpoena powers that has the ability to sift through and actually give the american people the transparency we deserve. >> but arent we living, even snowden talked about in that a child growing up today is not going to really understand what the concept o...

Abdicated their responsibility. so ill start with you chairman rogers. will anything change? >> first of all, i couldnt disagree more. thats like having the janitor at a bank who figured out how to steal some money deciding matters of high finance. this was a thief who we believe had some help who stole information the vast majority had the nothing to do with privacy. our army, navy, air force, marines have been incredibly harmed by the data that he has taken with him and we believe now is in th...

Dishonor. and this goes to where these data, this mate data goes because the nsa are professionals. they are limited in number to 22 who have access to the data. two of them are supervisors. they are vetted. they are carefully supervised. the data goes anywhere else. how do you provide that level of supervision. >> so is it critical then to get to the bottom and will you investigate who might have been involved and whether there was any link to the russians? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> that in...

Debate someone will make clear we kill more terrorists using drones. people may mot like drones but its a substitute for american soldiers being on the ground. two, learning more and more about terrorist plots. i live in new york city. im thank fal we have programs that do this. im not a snowden fan. he should come back home and face the music here like -- because i believe what he did was break the law. but at the same time, are if we can answer the one question that andrea laid out, where do y...

As said, you, you know, the world is really dangerous and we need these tools to be safe. its very hard to imagine fundamental changes in the program against president obamas wishes. >> yeah, i mean, thats a question, reformers are they going to say no, were going to challenge these programs and stop this bulk collection of data? >> theyre already saying they want to stop the bulk collection. the biggest change he made was the government would no longer store the elected metadata, all the phone ...

Great satan. she said we face a new level of viciousness. so to you and others who are opposed to these programs, shes saying thats got to be more important. >> yeah, and to me that is a false choice. in fact, i remember hearing president obama campaigning on the false choice, the bush administration was positioning when they were trying to do this very same thing. i think its really important for us to realize that its possible for us to have security while also not overstepping our right to pr...

Be looking forward to a proper congressional investigation. the sort of thing that will actually get us some answers that has subpoena powers that has the ability to sift through and actually give the american people the transparency we deserve. >> but arent we living, even snowden talked about in that a child growing up today is not going to really understand what the concept of privacy is. but dont you also turn toward some of the leading tech companies in the world that were started here in a...