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Explanation for what happened to khashoggi as anything and that salman says he had nothing to do with it and he believes him. do you swallow it as quickly as the president does? >> well, i think the president is right in that there could be multiple elements acting within the saudi government. remember, even though it is a monarchy it is a kingdom, the government doesnt act monolithically. there are different elements. >> you think guys would fly to turkey on private planes, be greeted by staff ...