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Think they play very well as overreaching. >> and it seems, david, we are hurtaling now, were hurtling toward some confrontation as you said. theres going to be a fight. if the president says no, mueller then sends a subpoena. it goes to a court. this is where things get very serious. >> we are. its important to remember, this is an inherently political process. theres some debate about this. the legal expert whos i find persuasive dont think the sitting president of the united states can be cha...

>> what does that look like to you, david? >> i mean it looks on the one hand like a big mess but this is a mess we should want. as harry said, this is about the rule of law. we are supposed to be a nation of laws, supposed to be a place where power does not allow you to subvert and twist the justice system. its clear donald trump has this view it should let him do so. thats what he means when he says he wants sessions to be loyal and when he said i fired comey because he was looking into me and...

Remember, this has changed three times, chris. in january, the president was eager to do it. in february, he was leaning against it. in march, he told his lawyer he wanted to do it, and in april whether he michael cohens office was raided, he said theres no way im doing it. so it could change again. but at the moment, i think there is some reservation in the team about putting the president in front of bob mueller and a team of seasoned investigators. >> well, carol, before you came on the line ...

Period, full stop. and thats the number one thing that they want to avoid. so i think the leak is designed to begin to portray an out-of-control prosecutor. of course, these are all very kind of obvious straightforward questions to anyone who has been following the probe and i dont think they play very well as overreaching. >> and it seems, david, we are hurtaling now, were hurtling toward some confrontation as you said. theres going to be a fight. if the president says no, mueller then sends a ...

David lean hard from the "new york times" his latest piece is called "the truth is coming for frump," and harry litman. david, had you something you want to say. >> i was going to say, carol made the point mueller is not going to limit himself to this list of questions. mueller is not just a lawyer. hes a political animal. hes held political appointments been in washington a long time and understands how the game works. he understands hes at risk of getting fired by the president of the united s...

Lines. were looking at a legal battle. its much more likely than it seemed three weeks ago that mueller will serve a subpoena. trump will try to quash it and were off to the races in the federal courtses. >> what does that look like to you, david? >> i mean it looks on the one hand like a big mess but this is a mess we should want. as harry said, this is about the rule of law. we are supposed to be a nation of laws, supposed to be a place where power does not allow you to subvert and twist the j...

You had with other trump aides about kislyak. so that produced the trump lawyers then in this case jay sekulow then began writing down questions that he extrapolated from the comments that muellers deputy made to him in a march 12th conversation. >> right. so this is all being channeled, this is a sort of meeting and a conversation thats then channeled through one of trumps attorneys and is now out in the public. thats how we sort of know what we currently know? >> correct. you know, a lot of pe...

They essentially decline? >> i think its highly likely they decline at this point. that could change. remember, this has changed three times, chris. in january, the president was eager to do it. in february, he was leaning against it. in march, he told his lawyer he wanted to do it, and in april whether he michael cohens office was raided, he said theres no way im doing it. so it could change again. but at the moment, i think there is some reservation in the team about putting the president in f...

Sekulow then began writing down questions that he extrapolated from the comments that muellers deputy made to him in a march 12th conversation. >> right. so this is all being channeled, this is a sort of meeting and a conversation thats then channeled through one of trumps attorneys and is now out in the public. thats how we sort of know what we currently know? >> correct. you know, a lot of people are breathing heavily, you know, this is the list, the end all, be all list that mueller is going ...

Its not just a legal conflict. it is as much a political conflict as a legal conflict. >> david lean hard and harry, thank you both for being here. deputy attorney general rod rosenstein gave an interview today where he seemed remarkably untroubled bid a report that trump allied house conservatives have drafted articles of impeachment against him. >> any reaction to the news that certain members of the house freedom caucus have talked about drafting up articles of impeachment despite your best...