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And i think weve taken the right set of decisions. i think it is the framing of the arguments about protecting the nhs which has bought off some of the would—be rebels because they cannot turn around and say, voting against protecting the health service, certainly in the short time, a lot of the money raised through these tax rises will go to the health service in the first instance, before being transferred over to the social care system. there are concerns whether there will be in a funding,...

But is this a cap on -- on income somehow on the people who receive it? >> no, there is no means testing. jeff bezos can have it if he wants. this is based on the experience in alaska where everyone in alaska regardless of income gets between $1,000 and $2,000 from a petroleum dividend. and if everyone receives it, then its universal its a right of citizenship. there is no stigma. there is no trying to keep track of who makes what or if there is a change in circumstances. and it makes it politic...

Conservative. even after the tax cut. the tax cut didnt work in this election. it got overrun by immigration and what the president decided he wanted to talk about. so he gets to come back to saying look, maybe well take a look at this. but there is -- no one cuts medicare and social security before an election, and this president, as you already pointed out, not going to do it. with medicaid that. >> dont need congress for that. they have states who are proposing waivers to add some means testi...

Security, like change how that works, the idea that overall they would be able to get it together to change medicare. >> there is all skiends of games they can play. >> there are. but the idea theyre going to do that two years before a presidential election. >> okay, let me suggest something to take a little of the scare out of this. the average democratic congress person or senator from the rust belt, they dont like to hear the phrase, okay, the upper midwest industrial states that. >> know the...

Said, these are not my children. so i am really terrified and i believe -- i have reason to believe that the administration knows where these children are, but they cant match up children with parents. and that there is no system, no database, no spreadsheet that is allowing them to do that. on top of that, we are now hearing stories of how parents are being forced to apply to get their children back as if these are children that they are adopting, you know, taking into foster care, theyre being...

>> it is different. george w. bushs increase was because of 9/11. and the addition of medicare part d, which a lot of people will say it successful. in terms of us, look, 25% -- >> in tax cuts. >> sure, 25% of the federal government spending is what we have any control over. 75% is auto pilot spending. you have 10,000 baby boomers retiring in a day. if you can make an adjustment to entitlements for guys my age, im 39, if you tell me that maybe there is a delay in retirement or something, a means...

Rely on medicare. so there are ways to reform the medicare program that make it more progressive and more means tested and therefore, more fiscally responsible. >> ali, does means testing help? >> thats not the problem. the issue is when you have medicare -- one of the things about medicare and medicaid that make it work is that its as close as you can get to universal coverage. this is the same thing as talking about medicare recipients to get their stuff. the one thing that we have to look abo...

Regretting this happened. >> are you concerned that this idea of means testing also became programs for the poor and the poor are not a voting constituency. once you take them away from middle class people and rich people then they take it away. >> thats exactly right. the reason why they work -- all these programs work is because everybody has skin in the game. they want to make sure theyre as robust as possible so they, too, can enjoy it. remember when bush was running on the whole idea of pri...

Youre trying to come up with a strategic excuse why they should not be used. >> and wrong. the country is not filled with the kind of racists that the white house thinks are going to see them through this particular storm. >> thats such a great point. when people paint with broad brush strokes of trump supporters, that is completely wrong. >> i agree. >> i dont know anyone who would support this kind of language, who sees the world in this narrow minded way. only norwegians. we only want norwegi...

Fact there were 25 days straight, the second longest senate floor debate in our nations history and they want to rush this through with three days. >> i think what the american people want is the better health care plan. they were told they could keep their doctor, they were told they could keep their plan, that was judged as the lie of the year because everybody up and down the food chain gets medical care found out that wasnt the case. one of the things its very interesting and this is that it...