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That was said by the president of the united states in the white house. >> lets get to this, thats why this whole talking point that this is about economics and not race is false. if you look at the research this is not about economics its about flat out racism. >> if he says i want more norwegians whats that about. >> and if he says i want more asian americans thats about. >> have you never heard before, its an insult to asian americans to suggest that they are somehow the only race acceptable ...

On mer it. should not be a color-blind test. >> what carrie is trying to do is keep it often policy because thats what we all want to do. >> thats not what the president did. >> thats what shes trying to do. dont think she is trying to excuse his bad behavior. >> i agree. >> i dont think we can have that policy argument in the face of the kind of ugliness you see from the president of the united states. because it isnt honest about what he said and why he said it. so its hard. and is the problem...

>> let her finish. >> can i please continue. so this really has to do more with the broader, if you dig deeper here, to the question of is the immigration policy based on skills, based on merit or is it based on natural disasters, based on war. studies show immigrants kept closer to their origin its better for the immigrant and also better -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> we can debate all that but -- carrie, carrie, carrie -- thats not what the president said. the president said why do we have to...

There are people that are going to have big-time jobs that never earned it by mer it. its loyalty. its how politics work. conservatives are breathing a sigh of relief they didnt en masse unversely turn up to donald trump. now you have mike pence on the ideas. >> hes the establishment -- >> movement conservative. hes a fiscal conservative and there running that transition. if conservatives had said we dont like trump, we are not going to be a part of it, they wouldnt have mike pence. >> he never ...

So i think whats going to be very telling fred, watch tomorrow. when rudy giuliani goes with jake tapper, and that show is going to be fascinating. are we going to see the short tempered, or are we going to see a brand new guy? that impacts what donald trump will do. >> okay, so if it is not rudy giuliani who were nominating, then, richard, an attorney general, is it realistic to think that one could pursue prosecuting hillary clinton, even though the fbi comey has weighed in? >> fred, your earl...

Avery freedman, law professor in cleveland. good to see you. >> hi. >> a new york criminal defense attorney and law professor, joining us from las vegas. good to see you as well. >> hi, fred. >> it has been too long since the three of us have been together. lets maximize the moment. okay, so the president elect, donald trump, if he indeed goes after clinton, can he, richard, do it through his attorney general and point a special prosecute, despite the fact that jim comey said the investigation i...

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Try to keep it. >> theres going to be a period, if you repeal it, before you replace it where millions of people -- >> we are going to do it simultaneously. it will be just fine. >> reporter: so, a much softer tone from donald trump. trump saying he started to think about these and keeping these provisions after meeting in the white house with president barack obama earlier this week, talking about obamacare. fred, i want to point out, donald trump getting congratulatory calls from old rivals. j...

Chicago-sun times". good to see both of you. this is interesting. now, it appears as though donald trump changed his language to repeal, replace obamacare. now its i want to keep certain things. lynn, is this donald trump who is the king of branding trying to rebrand obamacare as more trumpcare as opposed to repealing it all together? >> way too soon to tell. it isnt so much of just putting youngsters on their parents policy. insurers like it. it puts a lot of healthy people in the system. pre-e...