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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle 20240604 03:08:00

Attended to conceal. i think that s reall important. i m also looking for what kind of cooperation we might be abl to glean from these document that the da has for michae cohen s testimony. i think that s critical an determining the strength o this case. michael, we saw donald trum travel today that has historical kunc significance but no political or lega significance what do you think was the most important development today? i was looking at the judge ruling that came out about the media and it deals wit typically inside courtroom issues about who can have recorder and who can, who ca take a picture and who can t but in the discussion or - what the judge is laying out the decision - the judge says, it s undoubted ball that what is going on her is of monumental significance.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 00:09:00

The right thing just because i is hard. we talk about marginalized people, facing crimina justice. we don t ever have tha conversation needs to happen here and david, you mentioned, i might not just be michae cohen s testimony. earlier, lanny davis told cn earlier today that - documentation about a trum hush money payment to a second woman who claims to have had a affair with him which he denies that might be a game-changer o the prosecution. does that change the calculu at all i think it does i think it changes the way the story will develop in trial. here is the simple truth you and i have high-leve conversations about the law in environments like this and there s a reason why jon grisham is the bestselling author several times over. he - at the crux of the story you have any affair that people tr to cover up, so everybody come forward and introduces yet another set of circumstances involving the exact same thing yes, it will play a role i this trial dean, a common refrain i

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 01:06:00

In, so many words. what i can tell you is tha michael was forced to plead to a second crime involving karen mcdougal even though he did not pay any money in that situation, tha money exchange occurred betwee the national enquirer and kare mcdougal to keep her quiet before the election. mr. trump was involved in th understanding that he would be paid the national enquirer 150,000. michael did get accused of papering that transaction, but he pled guilty to that transaction. so that is the best answer i could say. the transaction involving kare mcdougal is the second crime there are witnesses to their crime that are not just michae cohen. and corroborating, detaile documentation, to him as well. as i mentioned, in others have described michael cohen i the star witness of this case, you certainly know the ins and outs better than anyone. how would you respond to som

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Indictment of Donald Trump 20240604 03:34:00

Something. at a minimum. for anything doesn t make a difference if you are donald trump, or joe schmo, you will get prosecuted but that was what jonathan and i were doing that picker. it has to be the falsification with the intent to commi another crime. so that is what we are going t look at the indictment o tuesday. to jen s point, for speaking with cy vance, is it the hus money payments not only do for stormy daniels, is it to carri mcdougal, for example? s attacks of asian? or some type of tax fraud? could actually be somethin that nick akerman said when we are on jonathan show, tamperin with a witness dangling apart into michae cohen to get him to no cooperate for purposes o continuing it what happened? he suggested that might be rico charge. he did. when he said rico, my eyes lit up

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ayman 20240604 00:18:00

In hindsight, nobody is talkin about. that it wasn t a good case and they got a guilty verdict. i think with the wind at their back they are bringing this. case but i think we just don t know and i am going to be the first thing i m going to be doing is looking for potential ta violations there was a conversation tha is very interesting and michae cohen s book, where he and allen weisselberg, he believes this conversation where alle weisselberg is, there is the falsification of the records and their legal problems the new york times is not only a lot of tax information we can see that that, whatever happened, michael cohen didn t get issued a ten 9 miscellaneous. which would be the form that w would be looking for in the ta records. and that is just a simple, her is a legal fee and we ar paying you, michael cohen has w to salaried employee of th trump organization he never got a ten 99. we can t see it in a very clea look but allen weisselberg said well, maybe we should bury i over a

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