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leadership. but boy, was this a test. and theres video from inside. it is real. it is authentic. it is striking. we should note as journalists, that it was not captured independently. it was captured by her daughter. you can factor that into the context because i always want you to know where were getting what we show you. but no one is denying the authenticity, the vigor, the seriousness of these moments. house speaker pelosi and chuck schumer dealing with a physical security emergenc...

hearing. cassidy hutchinson testified that donald trump and chief of staff mark meadows ignored warnings about potential violence before the attack and did nothing to stop it once the attack was under way. according to hutchinson, trump knew there were weapons in the crowd but during his speech at the ellipse, still ordered his supporters to march to the capitol. and new details about efforts close to trump to intimidate witnesses who have cooperated in the congressional investigation....

So theyre scrambling. Theyre trying to figure this out as well, chuck. No indication as to whether the president has been briefed on this. Hes about to hold an event with sheriffs. In fact im told he just entered and so well try to get more questions to him about all of this. But this is unprecedented, as you say, the fact we have someone inside sounding the alarm like that. Thats what it is, someone sounding the alarm. The call is coming from inside the house. By the way, i should make a point,...

They were screaming "hang mike pence." there was a gallows outside, i dont know who put it up. but there was evidence pointing to donald trump as the centerpiece to take down democracy and stop the peaceful transfer of power which would have destroyed our democracy, central democratic tradition. and you could have had a mass assassination. mitt romney had to go running away from the people invading the capitol. thats what we would have seen and it all goes back to what donald trump was doing in ...

And nbc presidential historian michael beshlos. and professional in law john butler. michael, well start with you, how historic is this? >> this is as historic as it gets. ive spent a lot of time looking at a lot of testimony by all sorts of people before he congress complaining about things that presidents have done. i dont know anything more shocking than what i heard yesterday and i think its going to change history because i cant see how this is not with mark meadows and others around donald...

Yourself off thefrom the possibility of redemption and growth but i think weve moved past redemption and growth here. the president wes remember, the signalled that they cared about what was unfolding in the country, what was happening to our people. and also those who were able to learn from experience. woodrow wilson said, even before he became president, that the president of the united states by law and custom has the capacity to be as big a man as he can. president trump has repeatedly turn...

Blamed, which is a ridiculous charge. when republicans -- >> i want to be really clear at the top of this segment, thats not what were doing. its about the culture and the climate that we are in and that is how we start this had discussion. thats why i wanted to have you on. >> fair enough. ask a question. ill answer it. >> well, were out of time because we already talked about it on the president and the toxic culture and you made your opinion clear. >> and the others. >> appreciate it. forme...

Like reenforcement tool to the president if it turns out to be something not what it appears. >> you can have a journalism on ethics debate there, but i think chuck and i are both saying that we have extreme respect for james bennett, the editor. >> yeah, i cant -- like i said, i think hes a man of high integrity. ive got to imagine this. michael beshlos, on the media aspect here, it seems like every sort of presidential moment thats aweed in american history, has a challenge for the press of th...

Of the century. >> he wanted him to get waterboarding declared as torture and outlaw. >> thats correct. eventually, bush came around to mccains perspective on this. his moral authority was so great on this question of torture that bush finally saw it mccains way. >> cant question a prisoner of war like that. kelly odonnell, michael, chris, guys, thank you very much. >> thanks. and ahead this hour, why is the president predicting violence if there is a blue wave in november? >> plus, you cant s...

Kelly. and f.d.r. had sort of a novel way of approaching this. he obviously wanted to console the family. one of the ways he did this was he wrote a letter to, as he said, whoever is president of the united states in 1956, 15 years later, and he asked whoever that would be to nominate colin kellys at that point 1-year-old son to west point, give an appointment to west point. and roosevelt released the letter and he said im making this request as an act of faith in the destiny of our country, ess...