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President cant be indicted. i read them this afternoon. the whole premise of them is the presidents job has become so important. hes so powerful, there are only 24 hours in a day. he waents cant do the job if h under indictment. for 18 hours a day he seems to be watching television or being on twitter. it violates the whole premise of the memo. why wouldnt a -- the southern district challenge that? i think they should. >> i am going to take you up on your diversion and raise you one former doj o...

>> if the attorney general makes the assessment, decides something is inappropriate or unwarranted, then the special counsel cant take that step? yes. michael dreben from the special counsels office, muellers office saying bluntly to the court the special counsels office cant do what it wants. if the acting attorney general tells them, no, what youre doing is inappropriate or unwarranted under establishment -- excuse me, under established justice department practices, then that acting attorney g...

Breaks here in terms of this appointment as acting attorney general that the president has tried to put in place in the immediate wake of the election. specifically this, appointee being allowed to take over what the special counsels office is investigating. and so heres one last thing that you should know. i mentioned that a whole bunch of really important stuff happened on this issue today out loud and in the press. but there is something else today that happened in court. >> the purpose of th...

Windows weve had into how the mueller team is actually supervised in the justice department and how somebody in the justice department who had authority over them might be able to try to shut them down. just the first description weve had. and we get it directly from one of the top prosecutors working muellers case. weve got tape of it, i believe were the first to broadcast this nationwide. the first voice youre going to hear here is one of the judges on this three-judge panel. the person who an...

One, michael dreben, who is one of the longest serving members and knows more about federal criminal law than anybody alive is one. the rest of the team is that talented. thats part of it. but if you read the indictment, david was right, you read that, they have done remarkably good, deep, investigative work. you can tell from the indictment who some of the witnesses are, you can tell theyve gone through the e-mails for manafort and gates with a fine-tooth comb, they have the e-mails. this looks...

Wait government deals with that is they go to somebody and say hey, you didnt register, go back and register. and then like manafort and like flynn both did, you retroactively register and that kind of cleans that up. >> yes. >> describing all of the money that came out of ukraine lobbying as essentially, you know, black ledger money as money that would be illegal because of its origins feels like theyre pushing it there. >> yes, well, they wanted to build an air tight case on this specific elem...

That. that is an assertion that can be checked. joining us is nbc presidential historian michael beschloss. michael, thank you for being with us tonight. >> of course. >> so looking back at watergate, looking back at iran-contra, looking back at other presidential scandals that resulted in criminal charges, how do you see this news today fitting on that number line? >> this has the potential to go way beyond because those were not really scandals that primarily involved a hostile power. you know...

Money that would be illegal because of its origins feels like theyre pushing it there. >> yes, well, they wanted to build an air tight case on this specific ill emt without getting into other subjects. and thats what theyve done. if you look at the voluminous documents and lists of wire transfers that were made, its very, you know, this would be very difficult if the underlying premise -- and theyve got lawyers, you know, like michael dreben backing this up. the underlying premise is this is pro...

Wiseman who signed one of the documents in court today, the lebron james of money laundering investigations. is that a fair description of the legal team that paul manafort is up against. >> weissman is not that tall but its entirely correct that bob mueller has assembled a team of experienced, talented, dogged prosecutors. weissman is one, greg andre is one, michael dreben, who is one of the longest serving members and knows more about federal criminal law than anybody alive is one. the rest of...