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calendar, you re not gonna be able to skip certain days because it s your birthday or skip certain days because you got a nail appointment. you re gonna have to actually go face the music and that s what s playing out here. the dutch port is going off with lights and bells and whistles telling us all the warning things that we need to know. 91 indictments, faith a trillion dollars worth of debt. everything that we can see did not chisholm as a nominee, especially that he s got the moral compass, or the more like an ex murderer than a president, we have to do something right, here right now. this is our pivot, pointer last gasp as republicans. jeff, jim, michael, all our georgians in one place, thank you so much for joining me tonight. always a pleasure, thank you. meanwhile, the former president is trying to ratchet the pressure to get an impeachment inquiry launched against his successor, president biden. is the house speaker going to bite or is the threat of a backlash from m
fulton county grand jury. jim jordan, a former georgia state senator and attorney, and michael more, also a former u.s. attorney from georgia. michael, let me start with you. because what did you make of meadows taking the stand? how risky is this, potentially? look, it s a pleasure to be with all of you tonight. you know, it s unusual to see a criminal defendant get on the stand and give a testimony underwrote, the largest one is a shot away from. that what it tells me is his legal team in this case at least is thinking about making a complete record that the likely find its way before an appeal that court, and they need to get evidence out from him that will be unique to him. in other, words they want him to hear him talk about his job, how he perceived his duties, how he perceive the functions he was, doing to find out if he could meet that standard. and even if it s a low standard, and a low bar, to have this case for move to the federal court.
just the drip drip of all the different strategies. i m expecting 19 different approaches to battling these indictments. and the whole theory of it being campaign related or official related, at the end of the day, they re trying to argue that they have the right to challenge the election which they did have the right to challenge the election, and they actually got relief on that. they had three challenges to the election, but that similar to walking into a bank and, saying i won $11,780. and they tell, you you don t have $11,780. that s fine, you can t turn around and slides videotapes like they did you can t accuse people of regulations, you can see the operators on the atm s are crooked, and then expected to not be called up fraud. that s where this demarcation line of asking a challenging versus fraud. and that s a challenge i think they re sitting in. for all of this, michael,
is that the strongest argument when michael was just talking about is the president wasn t subject to the hatch act, so if the president tells him to do something that violates the hatch act and because he s not somehow been does that mean that he is not responsible for a violation of the hatch act, meaning meadows? that s all circular, it doesn t make sense, and a really does underscore why you should never put a criminal, someone who has been accused of criminal activities like mr. meadows, on the stand undergrowth, especially this early in the case. one thing that someone highlighted earlier today, jeff, is in the memoir he was road after leaving office, meadows said that is trump s chief of staff was to, quote, tell the