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Its shocking. >> yeah. >> shocking. >> even as michael reports in the piece, even as justice department officials came back to attorney general barr and said, it doesnt look like theres anything here, were not going to have enough to bring charges, attorney general barr insisted that they continue their investigation, going back to your larger point about the justice department doing the bidding of president trump. lets turn to a potential, underline, potential breakthrough in the infrastructure...

Picture, there is no conflict -- no ones come out with a different image of donald trump that conflicts with the guy. >> yeah. >> who would do this kind of prenup and who would behave the way he does in his marriages, as youve reported in your book, as michael reports in his. >> yeah, i mean, this is -- this is sort of the -- i mean, this is the strange situation where its all on the surface. america knew and knows who this man was, and yet they still elected him president. so i think theres no ...

Out piecemeal from the, you know, early 90s to the present shows that there is much less there than he ever said. and i think the business press knew that for a long time. i think there were shades of it out there, but no one ever actually knew how deeply bad it was, and it was bad. >> one thing that i get, tim, from your reporting for years on donald trump, gabe, from your reporting, including this. michael wolfes reporting is this consistent picture -- the picture is consistent. as to the spec...

Thats usually one reason, to hide the truth. the president is caught up in that mess right now. >> and kate, to that point, add one thing to michaels point, i agree with completely, which is you have a couple of streams here, one you have this so-called collusion stream, but then as michael reports, youve got the obstruction thing and its not likely that if there was going to be any sort of, you know, sort of closing of the collusion part that it would also implicate the obstruction thing. that ...