could cause for about 160 million americans. this is a manufactured crisis. we don t have a short-term deficit problem. we have a jobs and growth problem and we have a faltering recovery. we should put off the sequester. put off this grand bargain. come back. let the bush tax cuts expire. make sure the middle class doesn t have to pavement the schif a manufactured media drama. laura: wow, can you say out of touch? joining us now from new york is maxwell a democratic strategist and guy benson the political editor for town hall.com. okay. this is quite something. we have been hearing from the obama white house, the congressional budget office and any number of conservative economistst that this is serious. that we have got to get this thing done that we have got to get it in order. or at some point america s full faith and credit is going to go away. we are not going to look so good to the rest of the world
like northrup grumman and lockheed martin. i refuse to believe that members are congress will not come together to find a way to place a greater priority on our nation s defense than we do defending gobss of tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires. the senator herself voted against that sequestration move. paul ryan voted for it, i believe. i m confident after the election we will find a way chris: if you are so concerned about the middle class why not let the workers know they may be laid off. none of the employers want to send out the warren notices. why would you do that why would you assume chris: the law was passed because they didn t want the employers to decide. they wanted to force them to notify the workers. to cause that sort of disruption about something that all of us as americans trust and believe that our congress will be able to work out.
americans. governor romney has not said what the plan is for paying for the $5 trillion in tax cuts just like he won t talk about what his tax returns have been or with all due reis spect, governor, first of all, governor romney made is clear in the debate and he was actually able to speak directly to the american people that he is not going to lower the burdening on up youer income individuals. we know that upper income individuals rely more heavily on deductions and he will give the relief on the middle class and it will be deficit neutral. one of the best lines of the debate was i have five sons and you can tell the story i m used to hearing the story five times and having me believing it to be true but we know it is not true what they are saying about his tax plan. let s talk about the president s vision. let s talk about where his deductions are. chris: let s finish about that and then we will talk about the president s vision, senator. part of the problem is that i have a
they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes in the middle class that s been buried the last four years. you know, the phrase they always use, obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars. guess what? yes, we do in one regard, we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn t have to bare the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. that s not a tax raise, that s called fairness where i come from. mike: i don t know where you come from. i thought it was delaware, but where i come from, it s still sock in the gut, taxes, joe. and a couple of thoughts there. you know, there was a movie a few years ago, warren beatty, bullworth. he was a politician that toll the unvarnished truth and spit
sure that the three principles stay clear that he is going to give relief to the middle class. that he is going to make sure that we are more competitive, of course, creating jobs because so many small businesses file as individuals that. that higher income individuals will not be paying less and it is not going to impact the deficit. chris: you were about to talk about the president s vision. the president s vision for the country the best weigh you put forward a vision is a budget and he talked about at the debate his so-called $4 trillion plan to reduce the debt but you what that really s is this budget the budget that he put forth one of the most shocking things about the lack of leadership in washington from this president is that in three years not one member of either party would vote for his vision, his budget. why? it is the worst of both worlds. a massive tax increase that hurts job creators and brings us to $25 trillion in this debt. so that is the vision so we can expec