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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190107:08:46:00

>> whats the deal with that? did you hear the garage door? >> i dont think so. >> why do you think that now? what has jogged your memory? >> because i think over the years, i thought about this night so many times. i had seen that car back out of the driveway many, many times when she was leaving. i think i thought repeatedly in my mind thats what i thought -- i saw the car. i can see it right now. >> he never thought for a moment, he said, it would be the last time hed see his wife. >> i though...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190107:08:05:00

School or to meat markets like the local red onion was back then. >> i know she was going to the red onion. i never went with her, so i dont know what she was like. >> and then that night in march, kids off to bed. their son, mike jr., was just a boy, 10 years old. >> i was in bed. i had just got a new stereo for my 10th birthday and was listening to the headphones. ♪ >> from his bed, he could see something happening out in the hallway. >> i remember them getting into an argument which was unu...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190107:08:37:00

>> because he never talked about my mother. >> at all? >> never. >> but mike never confronted his father. >> i just knew in the back of my mind that this could be a possibility, and i really honestly at that time, i never wanted my father to go to jail. i just wanted to know. it was so important to me the truth behind that evening. >> to get the truth and avoid a trial, prosecutor john lewen was willing to make a deal. >> we had offered him voluntary manslaughter if he gave us carols body. >> an...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190107:08:43:00

>> has it been hard for you to accept the possibility that she may be dead? >> well, yes. >> is it made even more difficult by the fact that you cared deeply for the defendant? >> yes. >> and younger sister, terri, even though she had suspected mike for years -- >> do you still think of mike lubahn sr. as a part of your family? >> yes. >> but most anguished of all -- mike and carols son, mike jr. >> is there anything about the way that you remember your mom that would make you think or made you ...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190107:08:44:00

Feelings. so on the stand publicly, i had to basically say, yeah, im thinking maybe theres some weird things about your story. and it was the first time that my father really would have known i felt that way. so i was really, really stressed out about that. >> how hard is it for you to be here today? >> very. >> do you want to believe that your dad is responsible for your mothers disappearance? >> do i want to believe it? >> yes. >> no. >> lets assume that your dad, in fact, did kill your mom, w...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190107:08:04:00

Mike stepped up and married her after the baby was born. >> he was a really good father. he seemed to really enjoy his kids. >> enjoyed carols family, too, especially her dad, milt. milt brought young mike into the family housepainting business. >> just took to him immediately. he was always a very likeable person. >> friendly, loyal, but not exactly ambitious. he didnt seem to mind at all settling down to a modest existence, them and the two kids all cramped up in a two-bedroom, one-bath house ...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190107:08:36:00

And nobody wanted to see him be arrested or him be the reason or -- or any of that. its like another nightmare on top of the first nightmare. >> this was a case where i think the family would have been more than happy to believe that carol is still out there somewhere. shes not dead. and their beloved son-in-law is not a killer. >> but of all mike sr.s family members, perhaps no one was as torn as his namesake first-born son, mike jr., who loved his father unreservedly. followed him into the fam...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190107:08:26:00

Supported. memories can be lost. but memories dont increase in details over the years, and they dont increase in different details. thats a sign of what we call a lie. i had version of what happened from the start made no sense to any of us. >> and why would mike lie? to the cold-case team it seemed obvious -- >> he killed her that night. she stopped living that night. and everything else thats going its all because you know its a lie. if you know its a lie it all lines up. >> remarkably mike lu...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180929:09:05:00

School or to meat markets like the local red onion was back then. >> i know she was going to the red onion. i t never went with her, so i dont know what she was like. >> and then that night in march, kids off to bed. their son, mike jr., was just a boy, 10 years old. >> i was in bed. i had just got a new stereo for myju 10th birthday and was listening to the headphones. ♪ >> from his bed, he could see something happening out in the hallway. >> i remember them getting into an argument which was...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180929:09:26:00

Supported. memories can be lost. but memories dont increase in details over the years, and they dont increase in different details. thats a sign of what we call a lie. i had version of what happened from the start made no sense to any of us. >> this is what makes the case -- >> and why would mike lie? to the cold-case team it seemed obvious -- >> he killed her that night. she stopped living that night. and everything else thats going -- it doesnt make sense. its all because you know its a lie. i...
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