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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180929:09:04:00

Mike stepped up and married her after the baby was born. >> he was a really good mifathe. he seemed to really enjoy his kids. >> enjoyed carols family, too, especially her dad, milt. milt brought young mike into the family bhousepainting business. >> just took to him immediately. he was always a very likeable person. >> friendly, loyal, but not exactly ambitious. he didnt seem to mind at all settling down to a modest existence, them and the two kids all cramped up in a two-bedroom, one-bath hous...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180929:09:23:00

Her family and never came back, delcine decided it was time for a surprise visit to michael luban. he went over with a sergeant. >> he invited us in. we did catch him unexpectedly, but that was the plan. >> but was mike upset or thrown off? not at all. >> very nice like i anticipated he would be because id now heard from everybody in the family how mikes a good guy. >> so together they went over again the details of that last night back in march, 81. and right away, mike remembered a little more...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180929:09:17:00

Missing. >> of course she was. so again he read through the police reports. couldnt help but notice the subtle changes in mikes story. >> and i thought that was kind of strange because i wouldnt think you would forget the last time you saw your wife. >> so he went to see carols parents, her mom, melba, her dad, milt. >> and he looked up at me. he was starting to cry. im like, milt, are you okay some and he said, he goes, i just -- so happy, i cant believe you guys are still interested in this ca...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180929:09:07:00

Unbeknownst to anyone sneaked back in when nobody else was around? imagine what it w was like back then in that little house. mike thinking things over. on a hunch he said he placed tape on carols dresser drawers, a little trap. one day he took the kids to universal studios, and sure enough, when theyst returned, h noticed the tape was broken. and some mail on the counter was moved, as well. a few weeks later, it happened again. some of carols clothes went missing. along with some money from a p...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180929:09:36:00

-- or any of that. its like another nightmare on top of the first nightmare. >> this was a case where i think the family would have been more than happy to believe that carol is still out there somewhere. shes not dead. and their beloved son-in-law is not a killer. >> but of all mike sr.s family members, perhaps no one was as torn as his namesake first-born son, mike jr., who loved his father unreservedly. followed him into the family painting business, worked side by side with him for decades, ...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180929:09:54:00

Family wanted most were some answers. >> its not so much that i want mike to pay for what he did. i just want to know what happened to my sister. >> at the sentencing hearing in december 2012, mikes own son echoed those sentiments. >> guilty or innocence aside, ive never wanted my father to go to prison. ive only asked if he knows anything, to please let me know. hes been a good father and a good person. if hes sent to prison today, i want him to know im going to miss our time together. its goin...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180929:09:58:00

Her body. it was a shock, of course, a big shock. for so long the family or most of it believed mike. now in a very public way they finally knew that carol was dead and he, their sweet mike, killed her. but the whole truth, was it actually out there somewhere? so on that cold and foggy january day, mike surrounded by a retinue of cops and lawyers floated out into the mist to find carol, find whatever was left. >> if they find the cinder block in the ocean, that will give me half of the closure i...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180929:09:47:00

Maybe. but now the downside. hed have to answer questions from john lewin. >> do you lie sometimes? >> no. >> you never lie? >> i wouldnt say never. i mean, a white lie, who knows? >> have you ever lie good something serious in your life? >> no. >> in your entire life youve never lied once about anything that wasnt a white lie? >> ill just say not that i can remember. >> in fact, mike had a hard time remembering a lot of things prosecutor lewin asked about. >> i dont remember. i dont remember go...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180929:09:13:00

In march of 1981, carol l a luban, a lonely mother of two, vanished, leaving for parts unknown, leaving not just her husband mike but her son, mike jr., just 10-years-old. >> i never felt that my mother abandoned mean. i never was upset with her never. i never thought she did. i dont know why. i was upset she wasnt there. i thought she would be there to show up at a graduation or something. >> but she didnt. and at family gatherings as the years went by, thanksgiving, christmases, that awful que...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180929:09:43:00

Off. >> has it been hard for you to accept the possibility that she may be dead? >> well, yes. >> is it made even more difficult by the fact that you cared deeply for the defendant? >> yes. >> and younger sister, terri, even though she had suspected mike for years -- >> do you still think of mike lubahn sr. as a part of your family? >> yes. >> but most anguished of all -- mike and carols son, mike jr. >> is there anything about the way that you remember your mom that would make you think or made...
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