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State, but it is not up-and-down liberal liberal, certainly not up-and-down state liberal in reagan area. what did it mean for him to be an unapologetic liberal. >> it wasnt that it might have cost him the governorship but it may have cost him the mayoral race in 1987. back in the 70s and 80s when he was coming into age reply kale, it was not a blue liberal state. and so even nationally to broad been it out, he talked about the tale of two cities in the 80s this was at a time when reagan was rea...

Effect. so thats the reason we have nuts like ted nugent. >> that is exactly right. ted nugent is basically the free-base version of sarah palin. no, i think mikes right, essentially you create a ratcheting up effect in which to truly rile up, you have to get more and more outrageous. no matter how outrageous you get, a la, ted nugent, you cant place yourself so far to not be invited on the stage with a genuine current elected initial who has a shot at being the next governor. >> americans have ...

Palin. no, i think mikes right, essentially you create a ratcheting up effect in which to truly rile up, you have to get more and more outrageous. no matter how outrageous you get, a la, ted nugent, you cant place yourself so far to not be invited on the stage with a genuine current elected initial who has a shot at being the next governor. >> americans have learned its difficult to get punished for something one of your surrogates said. we saw this in the 2012 campaign. mitt romney went to las ...

Ted nugent is basically the free-base version of sarah palin. no, i think mikes right, essentially you create a ratcheting up effect in which to truly rile up, you have to get more and more outrageous. no matter how outrageous you get, a la, ted nugent, you cant place yourself so far to not be invited on the stage with a genuine current elected initial who has a shot at being the next governor. >> americans have learned its difficult to get punished for something one of your surrogates said. we ...