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coronavirus overtaking wuhan, china. what do we do? oh, you know who we could ask? the wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab. the disease -- [laughter] is the same name as the lab are. [laughter] thats just, thats just a little too weird, dont you think? howard: heres i stewart on his apple f the show reflecting on the backlash. >> i thought it was a pretty good can bit that expressed kind of how i felt. and the two things that came out of it were im racist against asian people and h...

Schools. howard: but desantis says no one on nbc or msnbc would get an interview until she apologizes properly. desantis sometimes angers the hoping are media by not notifying them of public events. when the governor signed a i routine death penalty warrant, the liberal huffington post ran this headline: florida executes man used as political pawn by ron desantis. this monster killed a police officer, went to jail, escaped, stabbed this mom to death in a parking lot, and huffington post thinks h...

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People, you know, the leaders of newspapers, so its a bunch of well-off white people who cothe not live around black -- do not live around black people. zero members of the media have reported what i said in context. howard: so, rich lowry, adams began with a poll showing a slight majority of blacks agreeing its okay to be white. and then he goes to black people are a hate group, and now he says, well, that was hyperbole. sounds like kind of a lame defense to me. >> yeah. so, generally, i -- whe...

Disproportionate, you know, situations for african-americans. what he clearly meant was hes angry and bitter about things that happened in the his life, and hes built up, and hes blaming an entire community and warning everybody of his skin color to stay away from that community, and thats racism 101. howard: right. and those jobs were a long time ago. in fact, adams lost some subscribers to dilbert, you know, the final reason is because his distributer dropped him along with his agent. when he ...

We didnt know at the time -- was mocked and minimized as a conspiracy nut? >> no. i dont think its embarrassing. i think there were really two schools of thought and, sadly, it seems to come down along political lines. there were people, i would add to what rich said, i do agree with a couple of things. you know, journalists are supposed to report the facts and, second, there were ties to negative feelings about former president donald trump. but the ties to him went further, and it wasnt just a...

And frustrated when he just skirts right by every day, and he doesnt seem to be paying a price for it, i guess precipitously, in the polls. howard: yeah. the president doesnt take many questions and abe the president trump working the line outside the helicopter, whatever, he, of course, would punch back at hostile questions. so the atlantic magazine is openly calling for some democratic, anybody, to challenge joe biden on the grounds that most of the party, polls show, private interviews show t...

Talking about the possibility of a lab leak at wuhan, and you say much of that had to do with donald trump. explain. >> yeah. well, first of all, the medias supposed to report the information. its not supposed to try to control the information. and thats what weve seen in the recent years, and this is perhaps the most flagrant and worse example of that. and one of the reasons that the media kid this, they just assumed because they dont like and distrust donald trump that he must have been wrong ...

Andif you think of it in terms of a company and you put on the business person, ceos cap, where is that the line where you say, okay, ive got to shut this down until we have more ed, until we concern -- evidence, until we know this is true? >> they should have a broadly first amendment-based standard, incitement and things of that nature shouldnt exist. otherwise there should be a free debate, and you shouldnt be afraid of that, and its the what you sign up for if you live in the united states, ...

At the time -- >> yes. in august they said that this was a reach out to potential voters -- howard: expensive and unfair mistake. >> exactly. howard: how about now? >> and now theyre basically e stenographers for the biden administrations brief by the solicitor general to the supreme court. so theyre saying, yeah, he shouldnt have done this, it was a bad idea. but the supreme court shouldnt rectify the error, and the problem is that this is a separation of powers issue. and if the president can ...