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I think he was hurt by the way that john presented those issues. >> their friendship was the price they paid. >> theres been a real strain put on the relationship between the two of us, but, you know, time is a great healer, and im sure in time the wounds will heal. >> later he became very supportive and our friendship was mended. but he was a good friend. if i had to do it over again, i wouldnt do it. >> coming up -- >> people dying for the right to vote, friends of mine, colleagues of mine. of...