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It was all about little crossover democratic areas that they could win, that they could run up his score. they werent looking to run up his score among republicans, but among democrats. they werent thinking of iowa and south carolina. they were talking about mini hosts and mini floridas. but he was going have a very, very tough path through that primary. he might have done fit the tea party folks split amongst themselves and he was the inevitable one. but now his claim has been democrats and ind...

People were asking, how could christie not know what was going on. part of the team that wrote this lengthy article in the newspaper. thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks, wolf. great to be here. >> one of the conclusions, this political inner circle of governor christies team they were in very close proximity not only amongst themselves but with the governor physically, if you will. raising the question, how could he not have known what was going on? >> i think theres still certainly the ...

On the question of motive and whether the lane closings were all about punishing the mayor of fort lee, jonathan? >> sure. absolutely. when i read that part of the story, i thought, how is it possible that did the governor didnt know? them have these color coded binders you just talked about, but they would hand them to the governor and the governor would read them and stay on top of the information inside them. if youre talking about mini ohios and mini floridas in new jersey, then that bespeak...

And worst and worse. were environmental advocates not in it for the money. were about protecting people. you know from sandys, from climate change, for protecting our drinking water, environmental justice and if that didnt directly help the governor, he wasnt interested. once he got higher up. he always had higher aspirations. what happened is he caught national fire much faster and so he ran to the right much faster. >> now, jaungts, the "times" reports christies roo he election campaign was ex...

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