deregulation. it reinforced this idea that, you know, to put it bluntly, stuff the science the science doesn t matter. well, listen, in regard - to the minister meeting at that time, i continue to- have the same position. the fact is that brazil has a lot of bureaucracy, - regulations that should be - reduced, rationalised and other things, and what i said at that ministry was let s take - advantage on the fact that we can do things. without passing in congress at that time, because at - time, we had a president. of the chamber completely against the government. so, therefore, everything that we tried to pass - in congress were not be approved. - yes, but i think viviane s viviane s question is different, and it was that if you look at the record, that you cut the funding, the university funding into science and agriculture, research linked to agribusiness, you president bolsonaro fired the head of the space research
of guanabara bay between the sugarloaf mountain and the soaring statue of christ the redeemer. and with me is a panel, a terrific panel of experts and our great local audience who gather here with us to ask some questions. so, let me start by introducing all of you to our panel, and all of those who are watching from home or wherever you are in the world. joao brant is notjust the secretary of digital policies at the ministry of social communications, in president lula s new team, he is the first person to hold that position. welcome to global questions. and federal deputy ricardo salles, brazilian politician, former lawyer who served as minister of the environment under the former administration of president bolsonaro. and last, but not least is oliver stuenkel,
the science doesn t matter. well, listen, in regard i to the minister meeting at that time, i continue - to have the same position. the fact is that brazil has a lot of bureaucracy, - regulations that should be reduced, rationalised and other things, - and what i said at that ministry was let s take advantage - on the fact that we can do things . without passing in congress at that time, because at that time, - we had a president of the chamber completely against the government. so, therefore, everything - that we tried to pass in congress were not being approved. yes, but i think viviane s viviane s question is different, and it was that if you look at the record, that you cut the funding, the university funding into science and agriculture, research linked to agribusiness, you president bolsonaro fired the head of the space research agency when he didn t like the figures on deforestation, the formerforeign minister
and our great local audience who gather here with us to ask some questions. so, let me start by introducing all of you to our panel, and all of those who are watching from home or wherever you are in the world. joao brant is notjust the secretary of digital policies at the ministry of social communications, in president lula s new team. he is the first person to hold that position. welcome to global questions. and federal deputy ricardo salles, brazilian politician, former lawyer who served as minister of the environment under the former administration of president bolsonaro. and last, but not least is 0liver stuenkel, professor stuenkel, of the think tank getulio vargas foundation. he is a well known commentator on brazilian politics and brazil on the world stage. that s our panel. welcome. applause.
and with me is a panel, a terrific panel of experts and our great local audience who gather here with us to ask some questions. so, let me start by introducing all of you to our panel, and all of those who are watching from home or wherever you are in the world. joao brant is notjust the secretary of digital policies at the ministry of social communications, in president lula s new team. he is the first person to hold that position. welcome to global questions. and federal deputy ricardo salles, brazilian politician, former lawyer who served as minister of the environment under the former administration of president bolsonaro. and last, but not least is oliver stuenkel, professor stuenkel, of the think tank getulio vargas foundation. he is a well known commentator on brazilian politics and brazil on the world stage. that s our panel.