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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170529:00:35:00

everything was very tiny. so the amount of time and focus and energy it took him to do each one of these rocks must have been immense. i m going to do a yoda. a yoda on one of them, for a friend of mine. though stall looked for distractions in prison, he wasn t completely unwilling to face the consequences of his actions. during our stay at holman, he decided to participate in a victims empathy class the prison conducts for those convicted of murder. though the guest speaker was in no way connected to stall s victim, she might as well have been. well, this afternoon we re really honored to have pat tuthill with us. she is a surviving victim of a really horrible crime. her daughter s name is peyton. and her daughter was murdered eight years ago. and i have to tell all of you, i didn t know how i d feel about being here today. she was 23. at noon, she went to her house

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170529:06:04:00

it was interesting to talk to ronnie. because in prison everybody gets tattoos. even though it s illegal in every single prison, the fact of the matter is they manage oftentimes to get away with it. he would only show us certain things because he didn t want to get caught. i don t have my tattoo gun out right now. because of the lockdown. i don t know if they re going to come, shake me down. they re not going to take any of my inks or anything like that. i can order them out of the catalogs. but the only they would take them is if they found my tattoo gun. and i got it put up. like, where? a good hiding spot that they ve never found it since i ve been locked up. i would show it to you but then they d know where it was at. like most prison ink, some of shephard s tattoos tell a story. in this case, it s about his past membership in a supremacist gang. i m retired. so i m no longer there, but i still have the tattoos. retired means you re no longer with them, but you was hono

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170529:00:13:00

completely go in another direction because prison life is pretty unpredictable. and what happens is, these guys basically not only have to face the consequences of their actions outside prison, but they often have to deal with them inside prison as well. while prison officials developed a plan for shephard s safety, we were allowed to give him a videocamera to record a personal diary. this cell that i m currently in is not really a very nice place to be, i guess. let me show you what i m talking about. stretch my arm out. if you see my arms to my elbow, that s one elbow. basically, one arm length long, is this cell. it wasn t long before shephard s thoughts returned to the white supremacist gang he had once belonged to, but now had turned on him. just going to take this in

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170529:06:56:00

whatever makes you feel better, you have to know how to use that as a tool. whether you re in prison or out of prison, you still got to make due with life. you have to do something to fill up whatever void you have. in another part of san quentin, joe askey practices his art. and his choice of location just outside death row is no accident. there s a woman fighting tears back on the table doctor s just removed his gloves she couldn t bear to have a baby being single she couldn t bear to give it up the spot has special significance for askey, who is serving 25 years to life, under california s three strikes law. i almost killed somebody during a burglary back in 1985.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170529:00:54:00

ten-year sentence for burglary. i started drawing when i was 6 or 7 years old. my cousin, he drew a picture of batman. and i was like, what is that? you know? it was like a magic trick. and then he started teaching me how to draw and after that i just, i never stopped. unfortunately, goodman s love of art wasn t enough to save him on the outside. i started using drugs. i started being self-destructive. didn t care, you know, about who i am as a human being. was basically homeless. and was struggling with life in general. but in prison goodman rediscovered his passion. a friend of mine told me, since you re in prison, why don t you create work that s pertaining to your life? i was kind of like just fighting it. i m in prison. why do i want to do anything

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