>> it was interesting to talk to ronnie. because in prison everybody gets tattoos. even though it's illegal in every single prison, the fact of the matter is they manage oftentimes to get away with it. he would only show us certain things because he didn't want to get caught. >> i don't have my tattoo gun out right now. because of the lockdown. i don't know if they're going to come, shake me down. they're not going to take any of my inks or anything like that. i can order them out of the catalogs. but the only they would take them is if they found my tattoo gun. and i got it put up. >> like, where? >> a good hiding spot that they've never found it since i've been locked up. i would show it to you but then they'd know where it was at. >> like most prison ink, some of shephard's tattoos tell a story. in this case, it's about his past membership in a supremacist gang. >> i'm retired. so i'm no longer there, but i still have the tattoos. retired means you're no longer with them, but you was honorable when you left.