color of authority of the president. that may or may not have concerned the state department. so what do you want to know from them? what they ve seen or heard the - president do. look, when you talk about rudy giuliani, he wasn t working for the government. he s the president s private lawyer. but he says the state department asked him to go. do you believe it? right. no, i don t. and i think it s mixing apples with oranges and trying to make it look good, but it really isn t good. you know, you would think that given all the hoopla about russian interference in the previous presidential election, that the president would be very careful this time around and not use or try to use foreign leaders, but he apparently learned nothing. and if you read the transcript, i mean anybody can read the transcript, and you can see what the president was trying to do and say, and he was obsessed with biden and wanted to, you know, use the office of the presidency for his own personal
department asked him to go. do you believe him? no, i don t. and i think it s mixing apples with oranges and trying to make it look good but it really isn t good. you know, you would think that given all the hoopla about russian interference in the previous presidential election, that the president would be very careful this time around and not use or try to use a foreign leader, but he apparently learned nothing. if you read the transcript, i mean, anybody can read the transcript and you can see what the president was trying to do and say and he was obsessed with biden and wanted to, you know, use the office of the presidency for his own personal vendetta. so do you believe the president of the united states abused his power in his dealing with ukraine? well, i think he abused it just on the basis of what they sent over. can you imagine the white house sent this over thinking it would absolve the president. so how much more is there to
security clearances. he s going to continue to say terrible things about the president and so will anyone else that wants to, that doesn t have security clearances, so they re mixing apples and orange s here. maria: well it s interesting because what was the effort in july of 2016 to stop donald trump from becoming president? i mean, so they just completely forget what has just taken place in terms of the fbi, the doj, the dnc, the clinton camp, colluding together, to try to stop who america voted for. well i think this goes back to a point that you made earlier , maria. it s just because it s about donald trump and the end justifies the means and in the obama justice department and at the fbi, at the end of the day i think that was the policy that dictated a lot of these decisions and why they were willing to violate or suspend fbi and department policies to get to a place that they wanted to to investigate donald trump, someone who they didn t think should be president, would be
can t remember your exact words continue fronting putin. in what universe is that happening. steve, eve steve let me ask you a question. if the president as you say is the ultimate swamp drainer like the beacon of swamp draining in the universe he knows michael cohen s number. why wouldn t he call up his personal lawyer and fixer and say hey, pal stop sell access. do you think he was aware of the details? i mean do you really think that? this man running the united states government. what we know you know who told me he was aware of some of the details involving the the llc rudy giuliani. rudy giuliani has been all over tv the last few weeks telling me that donald trump reimbursed through this retainer essential consultants llc. there is a direct connection with knowledge of the payments between the president. no. but you re mixing apples and
i mean do you really think that? this man running the united states government. what we know you know who told me he was aware of some of the details involving the the llc rudy giuliani. rudy giuliani has been all over tv the last few weeks telling me that donald trump reimbursed through this retainer essential consultants llc. there is a direct connection with knowledge of the payments between the president. no. and his. but you re mixing apples and injures that s preelection. we don t know what s in the fruit basket. that s preelection problem fixing or whatever we want to call it. this is post election apparently access selling. daniels. the attorney for michael cohen we show clips from an interview we erin burnett was bragging about how he was sitting with michael cohen and president trump would call him to shoot the breeze on many subjects. i have no idea. all i know is what we ve within told from michael cohen before. he had dinner at mar-a-lago.