of sirte, his hometown where he was born. martha: let s go to ed henry at the white house. what is the latest statement out of the white house on all of this? reporter: martha, they re not putting anything on the record yet. they want to be careful. they want to see the forensics. they want to make sure muammar qaddafi is dead before they get ahead of that. you understand why they would be cautious. the president is sitting down with some of his top national security advisers. 10:00 a.m. he has a daily briefing. he get s latest intelligence around the world and gets the threat. goes through the whole gamut. libya will a top topic of consideration for him to go through. we need to point out the president will be sitting down with the prime minister of norway in the oval office. that is significant. norway provided six f-16s to the nato mission in libya. they were part of that mission for four months. the president will be talking to reporters about 4:10 eastern time with the prime min
his people over the past 42 years, but we have to be very cautious about what happens next. bill: the press conference in tripoli, apparently, just ended or is taking place at the moment. the prime minister is there. he said, quote, we ve been waiting for this moment for a long time. moammar gadhafi has been killed, end quote. who are these rebels? where do they come from, mike, and what do they want? well, it s a mixed bag. you remember at the very outset of this in libya, that was the big question. there was a lot of concern over, you know, who made up this rag tag group that was looking to carry out this. um, there are several components. you have to remember, also, there s 140-plus tribes and clans in clip ya. you ve in libya. you ve got the western mountains, you ve got, you know, the arabs that make up the majority of the country. their biggest issue because, again, libya s got several things going for it, right? it s got enormous oil wealth. it s got a relatively small
tripoli, they were still base inside men gaz si, and they refused to move to tripoli until the conflict was over which included the capture of moammar gadhafi. so i think we can start moving towards a real transition there with the assistance of the world community. i think that s a real positive development. martha: when you were there, what was your understanding of this transitional national council, and how much leadership they re going to have this the future of their country, what kind of country they want to have after this. well, a couple things struck me. first of all, very everywhere we went, and we went wherever we wanted to go, they would take us. they were have pro-american, pro-west, grateful for our involvement in helping them access their own freedom. i think they want to do the right thing, but they ve got a bunch of armed militias, people a few months ago were running a bakery are now rebel soldiers with guns. you ve got to convince these folks to come under som
and, of course, now with that comes all of the questions about what comes next. what will be the future of libya? mike baker with us just moments ago talking about his concerns about the muslim brotherhood and any possible influence they may have on a leadership role in libya. joined now by tony schafer, he joins me live. tony, good morning to you. morning. martha: what s your reaction today? well, we re entering, now, the maximum time of danger. up until now we ve kind of known which side which, and i heard mike baker talk about his view of this being more looking how we did things in iraq, i think we need to look at how we did things in bosnia. the dictator in yugoslavia had a very similar set of issues, putting tribes, elements against each other. and that s what gadhafi was very effective in doing here. so we ve got to look at that going forward. and bill hemmer just said about