guilty pleas here. jason: a case that has nothing to do with the original manafort directive. this is trump s campaign chairman. it was his campaign chairman. jason: anyone that has ever worked for you paul manafort here has been found guilty. look jason: of what? something he did a long time ago? the team took a gamble, the case in alexandria, virginia, hoping for a much more conservative jury. jason: you don t believe that he would have been prosecuted except for his proximity to donald trump? they looked at him. that was part of it. i agree, his proximity to donald trump brought the case. it doesn t mean that s the only thing. jason: if someone has skirted the tax laws, i want them to be convicted. but to have the national spotlight on them just because he s worked for 100 days for donald trump seems a bit over the top. let me get tom s take on this. tom, what do you think is happening here with paul manafort? a few things, i do think he was the wrong guy in
the campaign charges involve payments to two woman who alleged affairs with the president that he vehemently denied. stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. in cohen s plea deal seems to directly contradict something that giuliani told fox back in may. having something to do with paying some stormy daniels woman, $130,000, which is going to turn out to be perfectly legal. that money was not campaign money. sorry, i m giving you a fact now that you don t know. it s not campaign money! no campaign finance violation. it was funneled through a law firm? funneled through a law firm and the president repaid it. that questions whether there is any legal jeopardy, michael avenatti, always very aggressive, he claims this will get a stay listed a civil case, separate from us, meaning there will be a new fight over whether
illegally in our country. the immigration laws are such a disgrace, we are getting them changed, we have to get more republican. reporter: lawmakers nationwide demanding justice for mollie tibbetts. mike pence tweeting we commend this swift action by local state and federal investigators working in iowa in apprehending an illegal immigrant who is charged with first-degree murder. justice will be served. we will never forget mollie tibbetts. offered prayers from molly s family and friends. as california gubernatorial candidate john cox slams democrats for their open border policy saying, quote, those who want to abolish ice need to consider the consequences of their rash proposal. the mollie tibbetts case is one more tragic example of a senseless loss that should never have happened similar to kate steinle s heartbreaking death in san francisco, she was caught
i.c.e. is part of that apparatus. the men and women that do that job are incredibly dedicated, and for them to be vilified by the media and by democratic politicians, who seemingly don t care about innocent victims, is something that i find absolutely abhorrent. shannon: is a conversation that we know mike will once again get heated up because unfortunately of this case. randy and agnes, thank you for sharing your perspectives. thank you. shannon: coming up, president trump is its coal country, a rowdy rally in west virginia to celebrate his move to rollback obama era call regulations and makes a big announcement about big plans for midterm campaigning. chris stirewalt is here with political analysis. i m going to be going out as many days as i can and i am allowed to. man: tom s my best friend,
shannon: stormy daniels s attorney, michael avenatti, says this will lift a civil case and permit us to proceed with the next indicted deposition of trump under oath about what he knew, when he knew it and what he did about it. we will disclose it to the public. how quickly does the president end up being in this case? that makes no sense, no reason this would expedite anything. a lawyer has the same credibility as mister cohen which is as good as o.j. simpson. i would take it with a pound of salt. i don t think it makes a difference with respect to when or if the president will be deposed. i like the elevation of a grain of salt to a pound of salt. i don t see that that list stays in the civil case or opens the door to a quick deposition. i agree that i think he is puffing.