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in africa and sub-saharan africa and its ability to generate wealth. how can we sustain that? does he still have access to that? what does it give him in russia? it's a really good question. >> does his use outweigh his threat to the russian president? molly mchugh, thank you, my friend. we have a lot more coming up, everybody. you're watching msnbc. our second hour starts right now. a, hey, everybody. welcome back. i am yasmin vossoughian. if you are just joining us, welcome. it's fantastic to see you. if you are sticking with us, we are thankful for that. we are continuing our coverage this hour with more fallout from the wagner group rebellion against russia. a deal was brokered between yevgeny prigozhin and the kremlin. it stopped mercenary troops in their tracks, averting an armed confrontation. so has the temperature come down in moscow today. how has this impacted putin's
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>> and you actually bring up a great point because this is something that americans can sympathize with. they are also incredibly nationalist people. you'd think if americans were in the same situation, they would do the same thing, standing up for the stars and stripes and for the leadership of this country. so in a way i think it has also become very personal to so many that are watching this play out. >> and we see those stories, these amazing stories. >> molly, thank you solve. i hope that you will come back and speak with us throughout this. you are a brilliant voice on this. right now, ukrainians are fleeing their homes, heading west with russian troops not far behind. millions are expected to be displaced, which begs the question, where do they go? stay with us. e do they go stay with us
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fortitude. and i think that that comes from the fact that they have been doing this as a nation for eight years. i think that putin's greatest miscalculation is essentially, i don't think he really believed it. that the ukrainians have this new hardened more nationalists identity. and not in a bad way. but one that's really forged in this battle at understanding that their survival is sort of annexed attentional thing for. them and they're willing to fight for. they want what we have. they want the values that we have. they are fighting for them. they defend. them and they view themselves as the frontline. and i think that putin really didn't understand that you couldn't just come over the wall and given a victory break that the ukrainians would fight until the last man. >> yes, it is quite admirable how much they're taking their democracy for what it is. even though it is a budding democracy and the fact that they are fighting and risking their lives. fred molly mchugh, thank you so much for joining us this
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other. david rohde, thank you for joining. us greatly appreciate your insights. coming, up ukraine has been the shield against russian aggression. and now it is the spear. and it is where the west can beat putin once and for all. that is what my next guest says. molly mchugh, served as a senior adviser to the president of georgia in the wake of its war against russia and russian separatists will join us next. ll join us next.
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