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Whole bunch of these guys in a room and they will come up with something. well they have been trying do that for awhile. also very interesting that this is used as a threat by the administration that if we get a downgrade, unless we get a deal well get a downgrade. we got a deal. we got a downgrade. who knows at this point. >> the s&p 500 is still threatened to downgrade even more they want four trillion cut, the politicians in washington only cut two trillion. >> remember, two of the big rating...