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President and hes entitled to have his agenda go through and thats infrastructure plus reconciliation. the bipartisan deal is something that romney came up with and agreed with, but we need to get the whole presidents agenda. this is not the bernie sanders agenda, the elizabeth warren agenda. this is what joe biden wants. the progressives are on board with the presidents plan. the question is will moderates be on board and they will? we had a caucus call this morning. everyone is on board with t...

But this is why i dont want him interviewing the president. >> it hurts their credibility, no question. as i look back and i look at these clips and i watch them from the sunday shows, i am thinking what on earth are we doing here. why are we listening to the president and his team speculate in real time about whether he might do something that they hasten to add he will never have to do it. to me its an obvious, its a crazy hypothetical. he would never come to that. next question, no comment. i...

And it would lead to probably an immediate impeachment. house, senate will be under tremendous pressure. president trump has no need to do that. he didnt do anything wrong. >> thankfully the president hasnt done anything wrong and wouldnt have need for a pardon. >> shannon: matt schlapp, with "the hill." a.b. stoddard, guy benson. welcome to all of you. the president has tweeted a lot, as he always does. he says listen ive been told by numerous legal scholars i have the absolute right to pardon ...

Department, presumably those opinions would be binding upon him. that does not mean that if the president was determined by the special counsel 12 committed some crime for which he could be impeached, he could then be indicted. if he was found to have obstructed justice, once he is impeached, hes not in office and the opinion doesnt apply. he could be tried. >> shannon: those are the left raising the cry saying that hes an imperialist, hes going to do everything for himself and pardon himself, t...

What are the president limits of the pardon power but theres also a question about whether a president can be indicted. i think what the founders and the writers of the constitution envisioned is that a politician the head of our government, president of the united states, chief executive, the best way to handle these questions is the impeachment process through the house with conviction and the senate. these questions about whether the president could be indicted, it hinges on this question of ...

Circumstances. we dont know what those circumstances might be. a bit of florist case will tell us more. >> shannon: to the other legal issues, there president and whether or not he can pardon himself. the constitution doesnt say anything about that but hes getting a warning from his own top lawyer. >> rudy giuliani was saying yesterday. saying it would be disastrous. he pointed out that if you pardon himself, pardons dont apply to impeachment. and the question of whether he can pardon himself re...