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Tillerson is a guy who spoke soft with a big stick and this press is all about that talking and stuff and two different ways to do business. >> sandra: what did you think with the statement coming out of the state department and tillerson didnt know it was coming and thought he was on the job for an indefinite period of time. >> well, the guy who likes to say youre fired, doesnt like to say youre fired as it turns out and i think tillerson could wait trump out and president thought he could make...

Advocate for the united states of america and for the president if hes being undermined by him? it almost feels like this is a trump company, not the united states of america that hes running. >> yeah, and you know, weve all talked about the moron gate we can call it or something like that, the iq-off, but earlier he had undercut tillerson when he was trying to negotiate with people saying he was wasting his time with north korea and going after his policy is actually probably a more troubling t...