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15 to plus 15 in that range, then its a winnable or election for either party. thats sort of whether when were in coin flip territory. >> you have to take into consideration whats going on. not an election about the economy, it was a national security election, very close election in any event. but it was really dominated by the wars in iraq and afghanistan. i think whats more important, like in any poll, the same thing applies here, looking at the trend line. is it going up or is it going down?...

Democrats are overwhelmingly in favor of this. i think there are a lot of republicans who left to their own devices would want to vote for this. >> thank you very much, jack. up next, the iowa ground game. two weeks to go. who benefits if voters remain split? and still ahead, north koreas uncertain future and you can get all of the news at msnbcpolitics.com. were kind of a quiet couple. yes. but lately weve been using k-y® intense™. it stimulates arousal so the big moment is... (announcer...