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>> do you recall how many times you hit him? >> four or five. >> when you were doing that? >> im thinking how did i get in this situation? i was scared for my life. >> then gavin got out of the mercedes, said creech, there was something in his happened. >> there was a 10 to 12 inch stainless steel thing, i thought it was a knife. we went at it. exchanging punches. >> at some point, did you get that weapon? >> i kept punching him. >> what did you do with it? >> i threw it over the back wall of my...

>> im just thinking how in the [ bleep ] that i get in this situation. you know, i was scared for my life. >> reporter: and then gavin then got out of the mercedes, said creech. and there was something in his hand. >> it was like a ten to twelve-inch stainless steel thing that at the time i thought was a knife. we fell in the ground, and we went at it for about ten or fifteen seconds exchanging punches. >> at some point did you get that weapon? >> i kept punching him until he let go of it. >> ok...

You know, i was scared for my life. >> then gavin got out of the mercedes, said creech, and there was something in his hand. >> it was a ten to 12 inch stainless steel thing that i thought was a knife. >> we fell on the ground and went at it 10 to 15 seconds. >> at some point did you get that weapon? >> i kept punching him until he let go of it. >> what did do you with it? >> i threw it over the back wall of my property. >> such a weapon was not recovered, by the way, creech insisted there was, ...

>> do you recall how many times you hit him? >> four, five. >> and when you were doing that, what were you thinking >> im just thinking how in the [ bleep ] that i get in this situation. you know, i was scared for my life >> reporter: and then gavin then got out of the mercedes, said creech and there was something in his hand >> it was like a ten to twelve-inch stainless steel thing that at the time i thought was a knife. we fell in the ground, and we went at it for about ten or fifteen seconds ...

>> and when you were doing that, what were you thinking? >> im just thinking how in the [ bleep ] that i get in this situation. you know, i was scared for my life. >> reporter: and then gavin then got out of the mercedes, said creech. and there was something in his hand. >> it was like a ten to twelve-inch stainless steel thing that at the time i thought was a knife. we fell in the ground, and we went at it for about ten or fifteen seconds exchanging punches. >> at some point did you get that we...