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That might be dangerous in their eyes. its an extraordinary -- and you go to the final days where in the last year of the nixon presidency, there were concerns along those lines. but its awful early in the game in a new administration for this to be happening now. >> one forgets, he had a chief of staff who was a general who was relatively new. >> general hague. >> relatively new in the administration. was hagues role similar to the role that kellys been playing? >> well, were seeing that. i rem...