that's that's confusing, then. i mean, if he does have to testify about conversations he had with the former president. but maybe there's some things he doesn't have to say. do you know where that line is? no anderson. there's a lot of gray area here between mike pence, the vice president of the united states, who was also sort of mike pence, the candidate for office, and mike pence. the guy who's boss might be investigated by the justice department. where do you slice up where those different roles lie and exercise and take out mike pence? the congressional officer who was presiding over the senate now anything he did in his capacity as the person and overseeing the senate as president of the senate as the constitution. well, that's all protected. but where does everything else go and look looking? i mean, we haven't seen this opinion yet. it's all under seal. but there's something for everybody to appeal on this. if mike pence wish to appeal the fact that he has to testify at all, he would have a perfect basis for doing so. and the justice department could actually say, you know, your honor, this is actually quite vague and because of all
this. anderson appreciated elliot elliot williams as well. quick programming note in about 20 minutes, cnn prime time. presents inside the trump investigations an hour long in depth look with cnn anchor and chief investigative correspondent pamela brown at the multiple investigations facing the former president should have new reporting on former vice president pence his mindset after the judge's ruling today whether you'll testify that's at nine p.m. eastern tonight, coming up for us, we're going to dive into the details of how separate allegations made by two women about affairs with the former president in the years before his election. turned into a present day criminal investigation. young lady who was mid thirties. a couple of kids recently went ththrough a divorce. she had d t of questions when she came in. i watched my mother go through being a single mom. at the end of the day, my mom raised three children, including myself. and so once a client knew that she was heard, we were able to help her move forward. your client won't care how much you know until they know how much you
was, yeah. and do you think he was in love with you? he was. yeah, told anderson she and her attorney met with ami told them your story. the story, she says amy was only interested in buying her story after trump won the republican nomination. the side deal was, we're squashing the story. you think it's because of personal relationship. with the guy who runs am i his friends with donald trump. correct federal prosecutors cut a nonprosecution agreement with american media back in 2018 ruling out charges for the publisher. as part of that agreement, am i admitted to paying karen macdougal $150,000 to prevent her claims of an affair from being made public. and anderson in that interview with you, you probably recall karen macdougal went into quite a bit of detail about was what was offered as part of that catch and kill scheme, not only the $150,000 to silence her, but she also said that she had been
promised that she would be on magazine covers that she would be able to write columns for their health and fitness magazines, which was certainly a passion for hers. passion of hers, i should say, and none of that ever really panned out for her, but they were successful, of course, in sinking her story before election day, anderson and that's who testified on monday. david pecker. randi kaye, thanks so much coming up, you'll notice some names, including sean hannity and tucker carlson. that dominion voting system wants testimony from its $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against fox news. who else they wanted to stand next? ever better when disruption hits your supupply chain and w write. make sure youou're ever deliverg freight brokerage to transportation management capacity and dedicated trucks and drivers. this is a keepsake frame. this i actually a photo from my wedding. i'm adam weiss
the border as migrants continue to flow through mexico trying to reach the u. s. you have migrants that are just desperate and frustrated. so that skepticism and distrust between migrants there in juarez and mexican immigration officials continues to build today. erin mexican officials say that most of the victims and survivors were from venezuela and central america, guatemala. guatemalan officials say that 28 of the 40 who died were guatemalan nationals, aaron all right. thank you very much, ed lavandera. and thanks so much to all of you for joining us. you can watch the show anytime, anywhere. you just have to go to cnn go. in the meantime, though, it is time now for a c 3 60 with anderson. good evening tonight. newly released body camera video from the police officers who confronted and killed a mass shooter, the covenant school in nashville. we're going to show it to you. but first we want to
there and mike pence is a very central figure who might have heard important information. clear what phase this investigation january. 6th investigation is in at this point. well look, i mean, i think we often use the word accelerating, but really, anderson. i mean, we're getting the picture. certainly with all of the legal activity you're seeing the prosecutors are giving deadlines very tight deadlines for people to come in to the grand jury. people who are asking for more time they don't get it. they're also going to the appeals court in very, very, very accelerated timelines . so it gives you the impression that prosecutors certainly want to try to get everybody in and then be able to make a decision as to who they're going to charge or if they're going to charge. anyone now we don't know who those people will be. there could be some of the allies of the former president, people who are very involved in trying to overturn the election results right and then push. this whole idea of fraud could be the former president himself. and so that is right now what we know is the you know, certainly, i think that the political calendar is also playing into
seeking cover. they, in fact, accelerated toward the gunfire. you know, anderson law enforcement in this country takes a lot of criticism, and we're not perfect. get something's wrong, but when you see the heart pounding intensity of what those men the way they executed their responsibilities and lived up to the earth that they swore under unbelievable danger and pressure. it's remarkable and um, yeah, they what you see, there is a very highly trained well coordinated response. you see them, shouting at each other and touching each other on the shoulder, and they're not yelling for no reason they're communicating in an incredibly loud and chaotic environment. you know, when you're the first person in that of that group of a few officers, you cannot take your eyes off of what you're looking at looking for that threat so you can't turn around to see if your cover person is still behind you or if you left them. so you wait for
the gray areas and sort of trying to determine where exactly or how much wiggle room the device former vice president has is actually quite difficult , and we really need need clarity on this. what specific information about january 6th that investigators would like to get out of the former vice president. sure if the ruling stands up and he ends up complying, absolutely, and it's important anderson to get out of the frame of mike pence and donald trump were bickering and her mad at each other sort of the palace intrigue stuff. and where is there legally operative information that could come from mike pence number one. what evidence or information? did he hear about the president, knowing he was going to obstruct the actions of congress? which is itself a federal offense was the president. did the president make any threats to mike pence? was he aware of violence on the day of january? 6th was he aware of any other crimes that may have transpired? those are all legally relevant questions to charges that could either come to the president or other people around him. so it's yes, it's interesting as a human matter, but there's actually some law
have people telling me that he's hardly infirm and is able to travel around. i think you recently got engaged on st patrick's day, and he said he looks forward to traveling between his various residences in montana, new york and london. and of course, we just saw him at the super bowl with elon musk just a few weeks ago, so i think the trial scheduled for april 15th. is it clear if it's actually going to get to trump there could be a settlement. perhaps there could always be a sediment right before the clock strikes midnight, but it looks like all things are pointing to a trial happening in just a few weeks. anderson if it there is no settlement, the jury selection will begin on april 13th and then this would go to trial. april 17th again, you'd see some really big names appearing uh, potentially at this trial. fascinating oliver. darcy appreciate it. thanks so much. coming up next, something much lighter, which we all need. tonight you tell them how to watch the planets aligned five of them to be exact for nighttime show tonight. if your business kept on employees to
this week on whether there will be an indictment or not. in a separate investigation, with potentially more serious consequences for the former president, multiple sources tell cnn the special counsel leading the federal probe into his actions surrounding january, 6th scored a big legal victory involving testimony from mike pence, who tells newsmax he is now evaluating the court's decision that he has to testify or senior justice correspondent impress. joins us. so does cnn legal sort of cnn legal analyst elliot williams, a former federal prosecutor and deputy assistant attorney general, so i've been talking more about what this judge is what he ruled, and if he's given the former vice president alleyway well, anderson. the important thing from this judge is that he's basically saying that there's plenty that mike pence can talk about with prosecutors . as part of this investigation , the general six investigation , judge james boasberg said that while mike pence is does have the protection of the speech or debate clause under the constitution as the senate president, he was serving as