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>> shouldnt they -- you were saying that they should certify the election just a few days ago and move forward. they should not do that, right? there should be -- they should wait until they get the facts in and probably call a new election, dont you think? >> i would say yes to the first part of that. absolutely, we believe the investigation should continue. now, remember that the criminal investigations both on the state and federal level continue no matter what happens with the certification ...

The people not represented in congress. i know youre concerned about that. it seems like u.s. house democratic leadership has indicated theyre not going to seat mr. harris so theyre unlikely to be unrepresented at the beginning of the term anyway. let the facts emerge, and we will abide by the facts. >> final question for you, it has to do with the fact that the republican majority in the state legislature is right now moving for another version of the voter id bill, that the original was struck...

Incumbent congressional republican, these are the bladen county mail-in absentee ballots for that primary race this year, mark harris, 437, having hired the man in question, to do the scheme scheme over robert pittinger. those numbers make no sense and theres reporting today that robert pittingers people talked to you personally complaining about shenanigans and nothing was done. is that true? >> im trying -- ive been trying to recall that. it might have been. if i can offer some context. you kn...

Of election nonpartisan investigators sooner rather than later. you know, theyre the -- >> shouldnt they -- you were saying that they should certify the election just a few days ago and move forward. they should not do that, right? there should be -- they should wait until they get the facts in and probably call a new election, dont you think? >> i would say yes to the first part of that. absolutely, we believe the investigation should continue. now, remember that the criminal investigations bot...

Look, if it rises to a level that it puts the outcome in question then we should have a new election. if they can assert and prove that whatever bad behavior that is going to be punished criminally could absolutely not have changed the outcome then mr. harris should be certified. if its in the middle which is far more likely it seems we should delay the question of certification until the board of elections can answer that question for the people. you know, look, theres so many innocent victims ...

It is clear, it is clear, mr. hayes, that there has been a systematic failure in the state of north carolina, among republican governors, democrat governors and board of elections going on back a decade to stop this. >> wait. let me stop you there. because i want to sort of maybe argue on the other side for a moment. it does seem there are some persistent irregularities in bladen and robison and well see more things come to light. but the other thing is we now have caught this individual, it app...

These things. >> i hear that. thats fair enough. >> and look, look, we are as horrified by that as anybody. but i do think its important that the people that committed the acts are the ones that need the serve the second term of the pence administration in jail. they need to be punished. i am appreciative of the media and you for putting sunlight to this. it is clear, it is clear, mr. hayes, that there has been a systematic failure in the state of north carolina, among republican governors, demo...

904 votes that he should still be certified? >> well, mr. hayes, no, sir because if they found that many, you know, you would have a substantial likelihood there were more. >> okay. >> i mean, i think -- >> but i just want to make sure im understanding this. you think its a numerical question. >> if you let me ever finish i would explain it to you. >> okay, go ahead. >> okay. look, if it rises to a level that it puts the outcome in question then we should have a new election. if they can assert ...

>> and at the same time the state is engaged in a very difficult negotiation and fight over the control of the board of elections. >> that i know. >> and so the board of elections, its walking out the door simply comes out and says theyre not going to certify and at that time really dont say why. >> right. okay. but -- >> of course were suspicious of that. >> lets put that to the side. >> no, well, but youre asking me about what i said and you have to put it in context. >> let me give you more c...

>> and he got pasted. >> the cleanest, easiest model for presidential reelection is often whether the economy is growing or not. >> thats right. >> in six months before the election. betsy, there is always this question whether presidents deserve credit or not for an economy, and obviously they get it either way. they tend to get credit when its doing well, blame enits doing poorly. what is your theory about what the economy is doing now and the fears of recession. that from the fed? or is the p...