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Government in what could be a potentially criminal and illegal and unconstitutional way spying and surveilling millions and millions of americans on an ongoing basis. and i think any effort to change the conversation away from that, that potential crime against millions and millions of people and, too, a question about the person who has disclosed the crimes, is an attempt to say people who expose potential crimes are the real criminals. its an attempt, in a sense, to create an orwellian definit...

Exactly that. >> thats right. the director of national intelligence james clapper went before congress and perjured himself and said mass surveillance wasnt happening in the united states when he was asked a direct question. the same thing for the head of the nsa. at one level you could argue that someone like edward snowden saw these officials perfect injuring themselves before the united states congress and went forward with information in one of the only ways that he could to call out blatant...

About finding that balance between national security and privacy and something the president welcomes the debate. he reiterated that again today. we heard the president talk about this whenever hes asked about whether or not the united states is doing too much, going too far in terms of trying to gather information, whether its the recent controversy with verizon or other new developments where information was being gleaned from the web, the president had acknowledged that there needs to be this...

For his room and board and just existence right now. take a listen. is "the guardian" helping him in any way to pay for room and board? >> no, it never has. and i actually asked that question when i first spoke with him about how he was financing his stay at the hotel and his answer was very convincing he was making a great deal of money and has been working for private contractors in excess of around $200,000, in excess of that. >> the big question now, brooke, if snowden is backed into a corne...

Oppose it. and it will be tyranny. >> and this just in to cnn, the department of justice has launched a preliminary investigati investigation. law enforcement official says the fbi has begun its investigation and plans to search snowdens home and computers and interview his girlfriend, co-workers, friends, family, the list goes on. jake tapper following the story very, very closely. you, tapper, tell me what he said? >> we talked to glenn greenwald, we were the first to interview him last week a...

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I think he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. i consider him to be a defector. >> so what now and how do you go about tracking down someone who is an expert in keeping secrets? to a former cia officer and a form former cia operative. welcome to both of you. bob, look, the debate is raging on whether he is a hero or a traitor. tell me what is going on behind closed doors at the cia. >> theyre using the same methods that he revealed to go after him. right now, i can assure you,...

>> yeah, thats a great question. its a question i had when i first started covering this case. in florida 12 jurors are required for capital cases. for noncapital cases only six. its unique to the florida statute. we had more especially for a criminal trial. that is why only six and thats why, brooke, i think this jury selection is going to take really a short amount of time. were not talking about trying to find 12 jurors and perhaps four or five alternates but ten in total. >> well be watching...

Setting perhaps someone will ask a question. at this point, though, no indication from the white house that the president plans to comment on this. the word from the white house up to this point is that this is under investigation. as you know the justice department has launched an investigation, everyone looking into exactly what happened here and what the next steps should be but, again, at this point no indication that the president plans to address that today. >> well be watching as i know y...

And mentally ill without help. >> so an imminent threat. we dont know, its not quite, quite clear if he committed h himself or if his family committed him. but in order to be committed you have to prove this individual is a threat? >> right. so, therefore, a therapist might be able to report, someone else could report, but you have to be an imminent danger to yourself and someone else because we want to protect the freedoms of people. so the question is, how are these people allowed to gain acce...