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Russians. do you see that is the direction in which it will have to go? >> it appears that way. and, look, carter page has spoken on many sides of this issue. and it still is unclear the level of his involvement with the trump campaign and the trump foreign policy team. and his conversations here. and, look, its clear right now with the situation, with the senate intel committee, hes calling their bluff. hes basically acknowledging and saying that he hasnt done anything wrong. >> what does that ...