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Somebody caught in the middle of it, and that does not excuse the person from the consequences. Professors, we have talked about abuse of power and bribery when we started, we said we would also discuss obstruction of congress. So i would like to ask you some questions about obstruction of congress. Professor gerhardt, in your view, is there enough evidence here to charge President Trump with a high crime and misdemeanor of obstruction of congress . I think that there is more than enough. As i m...

Were with papers were moved out of the mail storage room, after the subpoena, and then moved back into the storage room the day before the feds actually went in. and so it looks like they were trying to keep the secrets from the government. >> brian: according to all the leaks of jack smiths investigation. >> steve: we dont know where the leak came from, brian, but its a significant charge. >> brian: why do we believe it? >> steve: i believe it. >> brian: we dont know where they came from. we do...

Facing a challenge by trump and that maybe he will have to go off. it is fairly laborious to have two grand juries and only one will charge. you have to read in the grand jury. that is time-consuming. >> you are doing a lot of excellent reporting on this. how do you think trump and his team are reacting to the second grand jury down in florida? >> it is amazing how much of a shift there has been from trumps legal team. they initially believed it was more serious. then after pentz and biden becam...

Would be and much stronger grounds. whereas, i think it and its the classified, but no one knows ive done the, is incoherent terms of how the system works. its all about the system but which the government protects information, closely hot, carries it in special packages, put it on special computers, popped up in special rooms. if no one knows its been because of it, they will continue to stream it as closely. this could connect to something else that mark was saying which is putting aside the o...

Incoherent interms of how the system works. its all about the system which the government protects information, closely hot, carries it in special packages, put it on special computers, popped up in special rooms. if no one knows its been because of it, they will continue to stream it as closely. this could connect to something else that mark was saying which is putting aside the obstruction issue, which essentially, i agree, that the espionage act, which is the one about mishandling national de...

Says he has a standing order which does sound lick a communicated directive. its that no one heard it. he apparently made it up as his first stab of defense here. but if he had something like that and there were a piece of paper even if its crazy to have a system like that, he would be on much stronger grounds. whereas i think it and its declassified and no one knows ive done that is incoherent in term of the way the system works, because its about the system in which the government protects inf...

Case or the pence case. and how hard is it to prov obstruction? >> normally, stephanie, it i very difficult to prov obstruction because what you have to establish is someones intention and their frame of mind in this case, however, donal trump has made it excessivel easy for jack smith because of the timeline he had repeated notices, and during the stretches after h received notice, thats wher you start to get his intention and it becomes more clear as t what he really wanted to do an what he wa...

This and heaven. i feel like i need like the court board with the strings to figure out all the things that are going on. but when you get a sense of where things stand what sticks out to you right now, i always feel like this has been the kind of the biggest anvil of all of the legal cases that the former president and look i mean the seriousness of the obstruction issue has been clear since the day they the fbi went. two mar-a-lago to conduct a search and then uncovered all these additional do...

Investigation. when they start calling your lawyer, they try to pierce attorney-client privilege, lets just say, that is never good news for the potential defendant. >> so, yes, i would caveat, weve had conversations about the walls closing in on trump many times before. >> only about 8,000 times over six years. >> the walls must be -- >> i didnt say that. >> to your point, i think the big vulnerability it seems to me is ultimately going to be on this obstruction issue with respect to these docu...

>> do you think that the department of justice -- obviously there werent criminal referrals for things like witness intimidation or witness tampering -- >> well, actually there was, obstruction. >> sorry, go ahead. >> we did refer the obstruction issue for further investigation specifically the footnote on the hutchinson testimony from september, but we also said the fact that we didnt mention people by name did not -- didnt mean we meant to exclude them and certainly theres a lot more work that...