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June 5, 2023
To others without declassifying them. he knew the documents he had were not declassified. that undermines his entire defense. he declassified everything automatically through a standing order or jedi mind trick. it hurts him deeply and i think that was the final piece of the puzzle. once they had that recording, they were ready to go. >> lets talk about that. over the weekend, the "new york times" reported that one of trumps lawyers on the documents case recorded recollections of his legal work ...
June 5, 2023
I had directed thereafter. and they had requested and received the video surveillance of the searches that my team conducted. and that was all after october. so, i think that that may be just a misunderstanding of the time line because i dont really see where this october demand would fit into anything. >> all right. in addition to this, obviously, and we know theyre looking into it, we dont know the significance or whether the implication it was nefarious or not. but "the washington post" is re...
June 5, 2023
Face-to-face with doj officials. this came taft attorneys requested to meet with merrick garland. the talks could signal the special counsels investigation into trumps handling, as well as possible obstruction is in the final stages. evan perez joins us now. two questions for you. first one, 90 minutes, not a short meeting. do we have any idea what went on? >> we dont. we spent some time, chasing, trying to figure out where the lawyers went. we do know they ended up on the fourth floor, which is...
June 5, 2023
That caused a flooding inside the room where theres a server that holds surveillance equipment. the question thats driving these -- the question that prosecutors are raising is whether this was intentional? was this an attempt to try to damage surveillance equipment so they could not obtain and fill in gaps that they know exist or whether it was a complete accident? we know some of the testimony they received said it didnt damage the i.t. equipment here. obviously its something that prosecutors ...
June 5, 2023
Special counsels investigative team is looking not only at the classified documents investigation and the associated obstruction piece of that, but really, the jaks nuary 6th piec and thats where mark meadows has the most to offer the justice department in terms of the january 6th investigation itself. he certainly was there. he was present. he is a key figure in this who i think is on the public side, we dont know a lot, which reveals to me that probably on the investigative side, theres more i...
June 5, 2023
Know this is not the way -- that this would be an indictment if it were anyone else but donald trump. and thats why i think jack smith, whos such a by the boong book prosecutor, is going to see it that way. i think the mishandling of the information in the first place, maybe trumps going to have a defense like i wasnt involved, i was out of the loop, someone else packed the stuff up and so on. but its not the finding of the documents itself that to me is the most significant thing. its that trum...
June 5, 2023
Believed a serious crime had been committed and that the attorney was part of that situation. and so they needed to get that information to the prosecutors of what that attorney knew and what that attorney did and what that attorney saw. that is a rare, rare thing. you almost never see it in the law. but it occurs only in really grave circumstances. here all of those judges said this meets that criteria. so what i think we are looking at is really truly, nicolle, a situation where all signs are ...
June 5, 2023
Zooming towards its conclusion. we know therefore one of the things that hes said he wanted to talk about but of course theres no question that trumps lawyers would be trying to glean as much as information as possible from their doj interlock or t utors about a caj could be building against their client. >> lets have that public bluster. let me show that to everybody. >> the angle theyre pushing on the obstruction is to try to create some sort of daylight between joe bidens possession of docume...
June 5, 2023
Of this meeting at doj that he didnt likey-like. >> and youve heard and youre talking about the bluster of his team, what is his team trying to do, push blame on to joe biden? joe biden did the same thing a couple weeks ago on your set. i said be prepared to hear his name more often because i could see the team shifting blame there as well. i always go back to the reporting from last week, got to go to the glasses again, from that white house article that said the details suggested greater bread...
June 5, 2023
These materials. >> one other quick question. were all reading tea leaves at this moment. mike pence was quietly cleared by the justice department for the possession of classified documents. he announced hes filed to run for president. is that significant that they have cleared that case out of the way? does that mean anything? >> i think it is in a separate course, but i think one thing its going do is its certainly going to help with this comparison that trumps trying to do, conflating the pen...